<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:georss='http://www.georss.org/georss' xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1054707203818412735</id><updated>2011-09-24T06:53:01.768-04:00</updated><category term='ethics'/><category term='universalism'/><category term='emergent'/><category term='chrisitian materialism'/><category term='China'/><category term='death'/><category term='Lying'/><category term='abortion'/><category term='hell'/><category term='religious pluralism'/><category term='tony jones'/><category term='mike wittmer'/><category term='easter'/><category term='evolution'/><category term='calling'/><category term='derrida'/><category term='animal rights'/><category term='emodiment'/><category term='Liturgy'/><category term='sex'/><category term='kingdom of god'/><category term='postmodernism'/><category term='homosexuality'/><category term='caputo'/><category term='pop culture'/><category term='Human nature'/><category term='celebration'/><category term='kingdom'/><category term='Heaven'/><category term='science'/><category term='humor'/><category term='sin'/><category term='story'/><category term='Stanley Hauerwas'/><category term='bible'/><category term='religious bs'/><category term='creation'/><category term='consumerism'/><category term='handicaps'/><category term='human flourishing'/><category term='politics'/><category term='buechner'/><category term='autism'/><category term='eschaton'/><category term='philosophy'/><category term='naturalism'/><category term='spiritual autobiography'/><category term='Relationality'/><category term='rock music'/><category term='deconsruction'/><category term='belief'/><category term='resurrection'/><category term='poetry'/><category term='bill buckley'/><category term='disagreement'/><category term='Christian Practices'/><category term='u2'/><title type='text'>Holy Skin and Bone</title><subtitle type='html'>&lt;em&gt;…I have been thinking a great deal about the body these last weeks.  Blessed and broken…I wanted to talk about the gift of physical particularity and how blessing and sacrament are mediated through it.  I have been thinking lately how I have loved my physical life.&lt;/em&gt;
      
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John Ames in &lt;em&gt;Gilead&lt;/em&gt;</subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default?max-results=100'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><author><name>Kevin Corcoran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17422789329481787215</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_UIcUp4yfmZw/SdzPy_tbHJI/AAAAAAAAAEY/uGtJ6uwPXhs/S220/dad+2+at+Birds+Nest_1.JPG'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>58</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>100</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1054707203818412735.post-533872900451725079</id><published>2011-04-09T11:16:00.002-04:00</published><updated>2011-04-09T11:30:28.049-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Love (Doesn't) Win After All.  Why Rob?  Why?</title><content type='html'>&lt;style&gt;@font-face {   font-family: "Cambria"; }p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal { margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman"; }p.MsoListParagraph, li.MsoListParagraph, div.MsoListParagraph { margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman"; }p.MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst, li.MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst, div.MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst { margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman"; }p.MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle, li.MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle, div.MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle { margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman"; }p.MsoListParagraphCxSpLast, li.MsoListParagraphCxSpLast, div.MsoListParagraphCxSpLast { margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman"; }div.Section1 { page: Section1; }ol { margin-bottom: 0in; }ul { margin-bottom: 0in; }&lt;/style&gt;     &lt;p style="font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;If you’re anything like me, then you are no doubt suffering from Rob Bell fatigue.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;It happened to me with Bono a few years ago.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I love Bono.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;But I grew tired of seeing him on every magazine cover and hearing about him everywhere I turned.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I doubt I’m alone.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I bet even Bono—big as his ego is—suffered Bono fatigue!&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;And I bet Rob Bell is suffering Rob Bell fatigue.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;So why another post on Rob Bell?&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Because I think that in all the malstrom of commentary, in all the defending and allegations and so on, it seems an interesting point has been overlooked. The point is this: if what Rob Bell says in his book is true, and if what Rob Bell has recently said at Mars Hill is true, then it looks like LOVE does &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;not&lt;/span&gt; win in the end.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;And that’s disappointingly bad news, and &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Love Wins&lt;/span&gt; a case of false advertising.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;To see why it is plausible to believe that, according to Rob Bell, LOVE really doesn’t win after all, let me begin by providing an argument for what I like to call &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Christocentric Universalism&lt;/span&gt;, the belief that eventually all are reconciled to God and enjoy everlasting union with him in a New Jerusalem.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Here it is:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst" style="text-indent: -0.25in; font-family: verdana;"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;1.&lt;span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"&gt;     &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;God’s intentions ultimately will be realized.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="text-indent: -0.25in; font-family: verdana;"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;2.&lt;span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"&gt;     &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;Among God’s intentions is that human beings flourish.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="text-indent: -0.25in; font-family: verdana;"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;3.&lt;span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"&gt;     &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;Human beings cannot flourish if they are suffering the torments of hell forever and ever and ever.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpLast" style="text-indent: -0.25in; font-family: verdana;"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;4.&lt;span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"&gt;     &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;Therefore, eventually, all are reconciled to God (since being reconciled to God is the only way for human beings to flourish).&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;The only way to avoid the conclusion is to deny one of (1) – (3).&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Yet each has a lot going for it.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;For instance, to deny that God’s intentions ultimately will be realized seems to suggest that small, finite creatures like us can thwart God’s good purposes and intentions &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;forever&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;And that doesn’t seem right.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;We can thwart God’s good purposes, of course—we do it every day.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;But forever?&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;No!&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;To borrow from Charley Sheen, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;God is a winner&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;So says the first premise of this argument anyway.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;One way, however, to avoid the universalist conclusion is to deny (2).&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;And this, I would like to suggest, is what Rob Bell does and why if what he says is true it looks like LOVE doesn’t win after all.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;One way to deny (2) is to say that while it is true that among God’s intentions is that human beings flourish, God has &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;other&lt;/span&gt; intentions or purposes that conflict with this one and, sadly, trump.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Enter free will.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;The idea is that while God desires that all are saved and reconciled God &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;also&lt;/span&gt; desires that all are saved or reconciled &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;by their own free choice.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;And since God values free will so highly, God will not coerce or violate the free will of those who choose to separate themselves from God. The idea is that honoring the free choice of those human beings who choose their own eternal misery is itself a manifestation of God’s love.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;Here’s where the problem arises, however.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Does that &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;really&lt;/span&gt; seem loving?&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Suppose I learn that one of my children abuses heroine.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Suppose I know that if they abuse for one moment longer they will be irretrievably and permanently lost.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Which is the loving thing for me to do here:&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;to say “I love you but I value your free will so very much that I am going to honor your choice to continue abusing and to utterly and irretrievably destroy yourself” or “I love you, but I do not value your free will more than you; you’re going to rehab.&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;/span&gt;”&lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;As a human parent, while I value my children’s free will I do not value it &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;more than&lt;/span&gt; my children themselves.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Likewise, one might argue that God values human freedom as a great good.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;But it is a &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;relative&lt;/span&gt; good, however great it is and not an &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;ultimate&lt;/span&gt; good.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Human beings, one might think, are ultimate goods.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;And God will not value human freedom over the humans who have it. &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;Here’s the idea. All things being equal the very best is for human beings to freely embrace God and come to him.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;And perhaps God will give each human being the very longest leash possible to come freely.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;But if ever—way, way, way down the future of eternity—one reaches a threshold beyond which if they exercise their freedom one moment longer they would be eternally lost,&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;LOVE will say “NO!&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I love and value YOU more than your freedom.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I will not allow you to be &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;eternally&lt;/span&gt; lost.”&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Isn’t it plausible to believe that this is how LOVE would act?&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;Now I’m not suggesting that a universalist has to take this path in order to retain her univeralism. She could simply insist that eventually &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;all&lt;/span&gt; are reconciled and &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;all are reconciled freely&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;God has all eternity.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Eventually everyone will freely and without coercion be reconciled.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;All I want to point out is that to suggest that God values free will so much so that God is willing to &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;eternally lose&lt;/span&gt; a human creature who has it does not seem especially loving.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;God, it could be argued, would love and value the human being more than its freedom.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1054707203818412735-533872900451725079?l=holyskinandbone.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/feeds/533872900451725079/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1054707203818412735&amp;postID=533872900451725079' title='6 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/533872900451725079'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/533872900451725079'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/2011/04/love-doesnt-win-after-all-why-rob-why.html' title='Love (Doesn&apos;t) Win After All.  Why Rob?  Why?'/><author><name>Kevin Corcoran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17422789329481787215</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_UIcUp4yfmZw/SdzPy_tbHJI/AAAAAAAAAEY/uGtJ6uwPXhs/S220/dad+2+at+Birds+Nest_1.JPG'/></author><thr:total>6</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1054707203818412735.post-8041192946459545590</id><published>2010-10-27T09:52:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2010-10-27T10:33:22.168-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Never Let Me Go</title><content type='html'>&lt;style&gt;@font-face {   font-family: "Arial"; }@font-face {   font-family: "Calibri"; }@font-face {   font-family: "Cambria"; }p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal { margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman"; }div.Section1 { page: Section1; }&lt;/style&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: verdana;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;And did you get what&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: verdana;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;you wanted from this life, even so? &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: verdana;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;I did. &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: verdana;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;And what did you want? &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: verdana;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;To call myself beloved, to feel myself&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;beloved on the earth.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;--Raymond Carver/Late Fragment&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;So.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;It has been a very long time since my last blog post.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Between that last post and this one I have been busy, living.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;There have been a lot of ups, and a few downs to keep me honest, and humble.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;What is it that has awakened me from my blog-matic slumber?&lt;span style=""&gt;   &lt;/span&gt;A movie.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;A story.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;A true story, I would say.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Never Let Me Go&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;The movie follows the brief lives of three characters, Ruth (Kierra Knightly), Kathy (Carey Mulligan) and Tommy (Andrew Garfield).&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;It begins when the three are about twelve or thirteen and at Hailsham, a boarding school for “Donors.”&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Donors come into existence with one purpose, to donate their vital organs.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I say &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;come into existence&lt;/span&gt; because Donors are neither born nor conceived in the ordinary way.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;They are medically &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;manufactured&lt;/span&gt; or &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;made&lt;/span&gt; (cloned, apparently, from the expendables of society, the low-lifes) for the sole purpose of providing organs, presumably to the privileged.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Donors are themselves dispensable, mere consumable goods.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Literally.&lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;Hailsham exists primarily to educate and shape the Donors’ view of reality, to inculcate in the Donors an acceptance of their “purpose” or “destiny” and to instill in them anticipation of and pride in how many donations they make as young adults before they “complete.”&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Which is to say, before they die.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;This, to my mind, is all back-story.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;It is not what the film is about.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Good films, I think, are like good poetry or a good metaphor.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;They’re not &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;about&lt;/span&gt; some one thing.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;They don't try to “make a point.”&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Instead, they birth universes, open up to readers and viewers new ways of seeing or being in the world.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;They provoke, interrogate, unnerve, inspire, and cause us to reflect and to interpret ourselves &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;to&lt;/span&gt; ourselves.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Never Let Me Go&lt;/span&gt; does all of these things, without being pretentious and without being preachy..&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;It's a quiet film.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;It discloses quietly, provokes and interrogates gently, and from the muted gray colors of Hailsham’s school uniforms to the largely colorless, flat affects of the main characters, the film raises questions about what it means to be human.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;For instance, artwork is collected from Donors throughout their lives and evaluated by the “guardians” of Hailsham.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Why?&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Kathy, Tommy and Ruth come to believe that the purpose is to peer into the souls of Donors, to see if they love and how genuinely.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;If their love is deemed genuine, the three believe, then “guardians” will grant the lovers a short reprieve from donating in order to allow the lovers a little time to indulge and enjoy their love.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Unfortunately, we find out toward the end of the movie that this a falsehood.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;There are no reprieves granted.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;The purpose of collecting their artwork was not to peer into their souls at all, but as one of the guardians puts it, it was “to see if you even have souls.”&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;And by the film’s end, one cannot help but be struck with the realization that Kathy, Tommy and Ruth are actually more human, more soulful, than the guardians themselves.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;For they know what it is to feel, despite their often flat exteriors, and to love, to forgive and to be forgiven.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;The fact that the guardians (like the Nazis and all perpetrators of holocausts) must refer to Donors with dehumanizing terms like &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Donors&lt;/span&gt;, that the guardians cannot even bring themselves to say that the Donors &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;die&lt;/span&gt;, but say instead that they &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;complete&lt;/span&gt;, suggests that it is in fact the guardians who lack souls and are less than human.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;And again, the film manages to communicate this subtly and without calling attention to itself.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;Ostensibly, however, the film is about the relationship(s) between Tommy, Ruth and Kathy.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;From the earliest parts of the movie it is clear that there is a sweet connection between Kathy and Tommy.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Kathy is&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;quiet, and knowing.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;She seems to have a capacity for pain, her own and that of others, She knows and understands Tommy in a way that others don’t, including Ruth.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Ruth, for her part, is the more assertive of the three.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;And it is she, not Kathy, who gives Tommy his first kiss, his first relationship and to whom Tommy loses his virginity.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Tommy, for his part, is also quiet, a bit unsure and weak-willed, his muted affect, like Kathy’s, belied by an interior life full of pathos.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;He seems to realize that it is Kathy to whom his heart belongs, but he is too weak to break free of Ruth’s emotional clutches.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;In what I thought was an emotionally painful scene, Tommy is unable even to look at Ruth as she pleasures herself on top of him.&lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;The life of these three, like that of all Donors, will terminate in their twenties.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;With that knowledge, like the knowledge they have of what they are and where they fit in the scheme of things (which seems only to become apparent to them when they are in their late teens), how shall they live out their days?&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;What kind of meaning can they—mere donors and expendables—carve out of their brief, meager lives? As it turns out, I would suggest that it is a beautiful life that they manage to wring from their brief, broken and painful lives.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Indeed, whether one’s life is all of nearly thirty years or eighty, the question is the same for all: &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;how shall we live out our days?&lt;/span&gt; What kind of meaning can we carve out of our brief time on this little round planet?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;Early on in the film, when the three are only 12 years old or so, we see Tommy rage at having become the brunt of some mean-spirited, schoolyard prank.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;The depth of his pain spills out in blood-curdling screams.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;After Ruth’s second “donation,” and the three have been separated for some ten years, and Ruth realizes her end is immanent, Kathy and Ruth meet and decide to pay Tommy a visit.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;The three take a car trip back to Hailsham, which is now closed.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;On the trip Ruth confesses to Kathy that she realizes, perhaps realized all along, that it was Tommy and Kathy who belonged together and she seeks Kathy’s forgiveness for keeping them apart.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;The scene is reminiscent in a way of the sex scene between Tommy and Ruth, where Tommy cannot bring himself to look at Ruth.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;For here, too, Kathy looks away from Ruth as Ruth confesses, the truth seemingly too painful for Kathy to face.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;Two scenes stand out to me as the most central, and important.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Both scenes take place toward the end of the film.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;In the one, Tommy and Kathy are driving back from having met with one of the guardians about getting a reprieve.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;They have just learned that there are no reprieves. There they are.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Their love having only just begun to bloom and flower, and now to be told that the time for flowering will be cut tragically short is simply too much for Tommy.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;He asks Kathy to pull the car over and he gets out, lets loose the most agonizing, existentially gripping scream, and collapses in painful recognition of the truth of his existence.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;The scream is that of a creature who knows both that he has been beloved on the earth and knows also that his life is all too brief.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;The other scene occurs just before the last one.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;In this scene, Kathy and Tommy are together for the first time in a decade.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;The recognition of love is written all over their faces and in their eyes.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;They kiss.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;And concentrated in that kiss are all those lost years, years that were filled for both with a longing and yearning.&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;Apparently, some who see the movie find it utterly depressing.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;They find it slow and dark.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;It is dark, I suppose.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;But I find the movie ultimately uplifting.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;For I can imagine the question being put to both Tommy and Kathy: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: verdana;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;And did you get what&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: verdana;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;you wanted from this life, even so? &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: verdana;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;i&gt; &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: verdana;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: verdana;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;And I think I can hear them both answer:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: verdana;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: verdana;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: verdana;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;I did. &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: verdana;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: verdana;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: verdana;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;And what did you want? (What do any of us want?)&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: verdana;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;i&gt; &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: verdana;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: verdana;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;To call myself beloved, to feel myself&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;beloved on the earth.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;i&gt; &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;It is perhaps a truism that the degree to which we ache and grieve over the loss of a beloved is exactly proportional to the degree to which we loved .&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;He or she who loves deeply, grieves the loss of the beloved deeply.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;That, I think, is what Tommy’s scream communicates: love and loss.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="font-family: verdana;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;Henry Miller once said, "The aim of life is to live, and to live means to be aware, joyously, drunkenly, serenely, divinely aware." This is the message I take away from the film.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Our time upon this earth is brief.  So live and love well. Be aware, joyously, drunkenly, serenely, divinely aware. And awareness, as anyone who lives it knows, opens one to both beauty and pain.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1054707203818412735-8041192946459545590?l=holyskinandbone.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/feeds/8041192946459545590/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1054707203818412735&amp;postID=8041192946459545590' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/8041192946459545590'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/8041192946459545590'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/2010/10/never-let-me-go.html' title='Never Let Me Go'/><author><name>Kevin Corcoran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17422789329481787215</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_UIcUp4yfmZw/SdzPy_tbHJI/AAAAAAAAAEY/uGtJ6uwPXhs/S220/dad+2+at+Birds+Nest_1.JPG'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1054707203818412735.post-1438345824930892935</id><published>2009-04-08T12:27:00.006-04:00</published><updated>2009-04-08T13:28:01.644-04:00</updated><title type='text'>An Amusing Story</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;Well, I didn't get to blog every day while in China like I had hoped.  And since getting back there's been lots of catching up to do.  Add to that my son coming coming down with a killer flu this week and things have been a wee-bit hectic.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That said, there is one really amusing story from my time in China.  And it's relevant to the nature of this blog.  The title of my series of lectures was "Dualism, Materialism and the Prospects of Postmortem Survival." My last lecture was titled simply "The Prospects of Postmortem Survival."  It followed on the heels of one lecture on dualism and two lectures on physicalist accounts of human nature.  I began the lecture by stating the problem.  If we are physical creatures through-and-through (as I believe we are), how could we possibly exist in any sort of after life?  After all, following an ordinary death it appears our bodies cease to exist, are laid in the ground, and over time, their constitutent parts scattered to the four winds.  So, how can the physical objects we are turn up in a heavenly city?  Now if you're a dualist but also a Christian, then you've got the very same problem insofar as  you believe in the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;resurrection of the body&lt;/span&gt;, and the life of the world to come.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In any case, the lecture explored different ways to make sense out of such a belief as life after death on the assumption that such life is &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;bodily&lt;/span&gt; life. Here I explored two or three differen ways things could go, assuming a certain account of the persistence conditions of human bodies, i.e., the sorts of changes things like bodies can undergo without ceasing to exist. At the very end of the lecture I concluded that we &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;can&lt;/span&gt; make sense out of such a doctrine as life after death, but if there is to be life after death it is going to take a miracle.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now the amusing part.  As I concluded, one of the Chinese professors, who had attended several of the lectures, stood up and stared at me incredulously, and said:  "Is &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;THAT&lt;/span&gt; your conclusion?  Where's the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;postmodernism&lt;/span&gt;?"  Apparently, he had been patiently waiting for  &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;postmodern&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;survival&lt;/span&gt; to show up in my lectures and, as it turned out, it never did.  He had, apparently, mistaken "postmortem survival" for "postmodern survival."  When I pointed out his mistake he recognized it at once, was somewhat embarassed, but the two of us had a good laugh nonetheless.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As for me, I had a wonderful time.  I think the highlight may have been our final night in Beijing.  I took Rowan downstairs to the Hotel Lounge for a celebratory drink (non-alcoholic for him, of course!). And I asked him, "what was your favorite part of the trip?"  And he said, "Well, it's between the lectures and the bird's nest."  The bird's nest, of course, is the Olympic track and field complex.  But, hey, I tied with that!!!!  In fact, during one lecture I saw my son writing on a piece of paper.  I figured he was doodling.  I later discovered that he was taking notes!!!! 11 years old.  Warms a dad's heart.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1054707203818412735-1438345824930892935?l=holyskinandbone.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/feeds/1438345824930892935/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1054707203818412735&amp;postID=1438345824930892935' title='5 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/1438345824930892935'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/1438345824930892935'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/2009/04/amusing-story.html' title='An Amusing Story'/><author><name>Kevin Corcoran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17422789329481787215</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_UIcUp4yfmZw/SdzPy_tbHJI/AAAAAAAAAEY/uGtJ6uwPXhs/S220/dad+2+at+Birds+Nest_1.JPG'/></author><thr:total>5</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1054707203818412735.post-4957265286816131189</id><published>2009-03-23T19:37:00.005-04:00</published><updated>2009-03-23T20:02:50.664-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Human nature'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='China'/><title type='text'>Human Nature in China</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;Times have changed.  Just last year I was in China lecturing on the metaphysics of human nature.  Then I was unable to access my blog, inferring that the Chinese government blocked access.  But here I am one year later, and for whatever reason, with full access!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, if time permits I figured I blog a little about my experience and my lectures.  Today I am scheduled to lecture on dualist views of human nature.  I'll cover a couple of Descrartes' arguments for dualism and the compound dualism of St. Thomas Aquinas. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My son Rowan and I spent a few days in Hangzhou before settling in Beijing.   We spent some time with our friend Jing and her husband Chenhui.  The highlight was traveling the streets of Hangzhou on bicycle with six million of our closest Chinese friends.  It was the most harrowing of experiences!!!  The streets are jam-packed with bicycles, mopeds, cars and buses and there are no discernible traffic rules.  Absoulte mayhem.  The same holds for boarding and deborading buses and trains.  It is a free for all.  People push and shove and no one is phased by it.  I was happy to see that the taking off and landing of aircrafts do not obey the same cultural norms!!! &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My favorite experience was flying from Beijing to Hangzhou aboard China Eastern Airlines.  As the plane was landing and was all of several hundred feet off the ground people in the back of the plane began getting out of their seats and reaching for their things in the overhead compartments.  The flight staff yelled at the people, raced to the back of the plane, closed the over head compartments, yelled some more and then ran back to her seat before the plane touched down.  It was amazing to behold!!!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And the food.  Ahhhh, the food!  Flavor abounds and we are in culinary heaven.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Reflections on my first lecture will follow.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1054707203818412735-4957265286816131189?l=holyskinandbone.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/feeds/4957265286816131189/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1054707203818412735&amp;postID=4957265286816131189' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/4957265286816131189'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/4957265286816131189'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/2009/03/human-nature-in-china.html' title='Human Nature in China'/><author><name>Kevin Corcoran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17422789329481787215</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_UIcUp4yfmZw/SdzPy_tbHJI/AAAAAAAAAEY/uGtJ6uwPXhs/S220/dad+2+at+Birds+Nest_1.JPG'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1054707203818412735.post-114040215212357170</id><published>2009-03-13T16:14:00.007-04:00</published><updated>2009-03-14T10:59:54.330-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='rock music'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='eschaton'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='u2'/><title type='text'>They Still Haven't Found What They're Looking For: More U2 NLOTH</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;Over at &lt;a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://u2sermons.blogspot.com/"&gt;U2 Sermons&lt;/a&gt; there has been lots of discussion of the new U2 album, NLOTH.  Beth, whose site it is, has been offering up really interesting and provocative musings on the album.  Here’s one line from a recent post:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;U2 don't want to show us the certainties we humans make of religious experience after the fact; they want to show us actual religious experience in all its imperious, weird, transformative power.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think she’s right about that.  I think this album (especially) provides more of a phenomenology of religious experience than an interpretation of it.  The lyrics are written from the on-the-ground perspective of lived experience.   They are not written in what we might call the theoretic mode, which comes after the experience has been filtered through a particular hermeneutic grid.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;Life, it is often said, is always lived forward but only understood backward.  This U2 album is very much written in the forward direction, not the backward.  But if that’s so, then I don’t think we can say that the face looking back at the guy at the ATM machine in &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Moment of Surender&lt;/span&gt; is the face of Jesus, as one commenter at U2 Sermons does.  From inside the story I think it’s ambiguous just whose face is staring back at the character. I think even the identity of the unknown caller in the song by the same name is, from inside the story, also ambiguous. Is it God?  Is it a wrong number?  Who is it?  The ambiguity of the identity of the caller is supported by Bono himself who says exactly that in the book that accompanies the deluxe editions.   He himself asks, “Who is it that’s calling?  Is it God?  Who?”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;I think we’ve got to be careful about saying what lyrics mean or to whom the characters in them mean to be referring.  As a piece of art the lyrics are open to myriad interpretations which, though they may be radically different, can all be faithful to the lyrics.  From within the narrative of the album or the songs themselves, however, I think the source of transformation in MoS and UKC is shrouded in mystery.   &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;One more thought.  Also over at &lt;a style="color: rgb(51, 102, 255);" href="http://u2sermons.blogspot.com/"&gt;U2 Sermons&lt;/a&gt; Beth has a beautiful post titled &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Dhikr&lt;/span&gt; in which she talks about the Sufi influences on NLOTH.  One of the things she suggests in her discussion is that there’s not as much &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;ache&lt;/span&gt; in NLOTH as there is in previous U2 albums.  She says,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;“U2 often used to give us quite a lot of lament alternating with dazzled foretastes, or the two married into a kind of ache. But there is not much aching on NLOTH. The album is more settled and assured on both ends; its quest is to dwell in reality, not drum up drama, and yet it seems more confident than ever that there is a realm of very palpable connection with God available now as well.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;Well, I dunno.  I think the very title of the album, together with the future orientation of many of the album’s moments, suggests otherwise.  I think this album no less than previous ones drips with what the Germans call &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;sensucht&lt;/span&gt;, a perpetually unsatisfied longing and yearning, an ache, at the center of the human condition.  Indeed, I was just talking with students last night about this in connection with C.S. Lewis.   Lewis claims in &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Surprised by Joy&lt;/span&gt; that &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;sensucht&lt;/span&gt;, more than anything, was the central story of his life.  I believe this to be the central message of &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;I Still Haven’t Found What I’m Looking For&lt;/span&gt;. The band members may have in fact been found by God, but they still hadn't found what they were looking for.  That's &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;sensucht&lt;/span&gt;.  And it’s there in &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;White as Snow&lt;/span&gt;.  It’s there too in &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Cedars of Lebanon&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-family:verdana;" &gt;This shitty world sometimes produces a rose&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-family:verdana;" &gt;The scent of it lingers and then it just goes&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;That just about says it all, doesn’t it?  That just about summarizes all U2 albums: it’s a shitty world.  But sometimes it produces roses.  Enjoy the roses, because soon enough their fragrance will be gone.  And the longing will return.  The ache, in fact, is never fully massaged away, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;ever&lt;/span&gt;; at least not on this side of the Silence. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;So NLOTH, no less than U2’s other albums, is radically this-worldly.  But insofar as it is I don’t think it’s any more settled or assured than previous albums. Life in the sound is intrinsically &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;un&lt;/span&gt;settled. It’s characterized by darkness and punctuated now and again by real but fleeting glimpses of the Divine. Love may have the last word and a few beautiful penultimate words.  And joy no doubt gets in its two-cents worth, too, between the already and the not-yet.  But the scent of them both lingers and then it just goes.  And so we find ourselves &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;always&lt;/span&gt; longing, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;always&lt;/span&gt; yearning, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;never&lt;/span&gt; settled.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1054707203818412735-114040215212357170?l=holyskinandbone.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/feeds/114040215212357170/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1054707203818412735&amp;postID=114040215212357170' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/114040215212357170'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/114040215212357170'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/2009/03/they-still-havent-found-what-theyre.html' title='They Still Haven&apos;t Found What They&apos;re Looking For: More U2 NLOTH'/><author><name>Kevin Corcoran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17422789329481787215</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_UIcUp4yfmZw/SdzPy_tbHJI/AAAAAAAAAEY/uGtJ6uwPXhs/S220/dad+2+at+Birds+Nest_1.JPG'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1054707203818412735.post-685648545320822358</id><published>2009-03-07T14:34:00.010-05:00</published><updated>2009-03-08T09:42:51.205-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='rock music'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='kingdom of god'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='eschaton'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Heaven'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='u2'/><title type='text'>U2: No Line on The Horizon</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_UIcUp4yfmZw/SbLPsuxKo9I/AAAAAAAAAEQ/RurZwJWPHhM/s1600-h/NoLineU2Promo.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 290px; height: 259px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_UIcUp4yfmZw/SbLPsuxKo9I/AAAAAAAAAEQ/RurZwJWPHhM/s320/NoLineU2Promo.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5310535277998678994" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;Conversation in the media and around the blogosphere surrounding U2’s 12th studio album, NLOTH, is both ubiquitous and animated, much like the front man of U2 himself, the ever present Bono.  Some of the faithful love the album and tout it as their best yet.  Others….not so much.  Despite the fact that I, like ever so many, have been suffering from a severe case of “Bono Fatigue,” (as my friend Matt likes to call it), I was eager to get my hands on the new record.  Indeed, I had been listening to it for weeks before I bought it from my local record store &lt;a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://www.vertigomusiconline.com/index.html"&gt;Vertigo Music&lt;/a&gt; the day it was released.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Some Christians are hailing the album as U2’s &lt;a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://www.christianpost.com/Entertainment/Music/2009/03/theologian-calls-new-u2-album-most-thoroughly-christian-project-to-date-03/index.html"&gt;most explicitly Christian&lt;/a&gt; since &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;October&lt;/span&gt;.  Indeed, &lt;a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://mockingbirdnyc.blogspot.com/2009/02/i-found-grace-inside-sound-theological.html"&gt;Christians&lt;/a&gt; have been finding everything from the album’s cover to the lyrics thick with Christian content and symbolism.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Music is art and just as good works of art help us to see new worlds or to sometimes see the same world with new eyes, so the work of art itself is open to a plurality of interpretations, depending on the hermeneutic of the viewer-listener-reader.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let’s start with the album cover, pictured above.  It features a black and white Hiroshi Sugimoto photograph of sky meeting sea. Some interpret the cover as a testament to U2’s eschatological vision of that day when God’s kingdom has come to earth in fullness.  I like that interpretation and think the cover is certainly open to it. Viewed from the perspective of the Christian story, what I really like about the photograph is the bottom half.  The top half is very light and the bottom half much darker.  It’s easy to view the image as a bold contrast between light (heaven) and darkness (earth). And yet.  And yet one can’t help but be struck by the circle of reflected light amidst the darkness in the bottom half, pushing the darkness outward; a beautiful image I think.  The Christian sees in this God’s goodness pushing back the darkness, all that drags us down.  That’s grace. &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt; Gravity&lt;/span&gt; (darkness and sin) pulls us downward, but &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;grace&lt;/span&gt; (light and love) push back against gravity and lift us up.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;How does Bono himself describe the album cover?  Well, not with the language and imagery I just used.  He describes it in terms that are woven throughout the lyrics of the album and which, though not at odds in any way with Christian thought, are certainly not &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;explicitly&lt;/span&gt; Christian either.  He sees the photograph as symbolizing &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;infinity&lt;/span&gt;, an image of a future open to infinite possibility.  His focus is neither on the light nor the darkness, but on the vanishing point in the infinite distance, the point beyond our vision. The upcoming tour, by the way, will be called &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Kiss the Future&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The notion of infinity is, as I say, woven throughout the album.  From the title track, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;No Line On the Horizon&lt;/span&gt;, where Bono croons&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;I know a girl with a hole in her heart&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;She said infinity’s a great place to start&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Oh….&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;to the hymn-like confession &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Magnificent&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;I was born&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;I was born to be with you&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;In this space and time&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;After that and ever after&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;I haven't had a clue&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;to the equally confessional &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Breathe&lt;/span&gt;, where Bono speaks of the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;“roar that lies on the other side of silence.”&lt;/span&gt;  I hear in all these lines an openness to the future, a denial that things must be the way they in fact are, a kind of joy in infinite possibility, and a yearning for what lies beyond.  Christian?  &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Explicitly&lt;/span&gt; Christian?  If one is a Christian one will no doubt resonate with the themes of uncertainty in the face of infinity and that things are not now as they should be and &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;will be&lt;/span&gt; in the shalomic future.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;While many moments of autobiography can be detected on this album—&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;gotta stand up to rock stars; Napoleon is in high heels; Josephine, be careful of small men with big ideas&lt;/span&gt;, many of the songs are written, Bono tells us in the book that accompanies the deluxe editions, from the perspectives of characters he has created.  The last two U2 albums—ATYCLB and HTDAB were straightforward autobiography, personal accounts of Bono wrestling with his own demons.  This one less so; at least less so in terms of being written from the first-person perspective.  But, as Bono himself reminds us, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;the mask reveals the man&lt;/span&gt;.  And that’s no doubt true on this album.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Though not written from the first-person perspective there’s still a lot of Bono that shines through the characters he concocts for this album.   What manages to shine through is humility, uncertainty in the presence of transcendence, doubt in the presence of unvarnished evil, longing, rebirth, and sheer joy, gratitude and love.  If you're a Christian, all of those ideas are bound to resonate, and resonate deeply.  Are they Christian?  &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Explicitly&lt;/span&gt; Christian?  Whatever they are they are certainly not &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;exclusively&lt;/span&gt; Christian.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;While Bono can be a little too full of himself for his own good, somehow he manages, I think, to convey a laudable sort of humility.  This comes through brilliantly on &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Magnificent&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;I was born&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;I was born to sing for you&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;I didn’t have a choice&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;But to lift you up&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;And sing whatever song you wanted me to&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;I give you back my voice&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;From the womb my first cry&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;It was a joyful noise&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Oh, oh…&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is not braggodocio.  It’s Bono realizing that he’s been given a gift, a voice, something which, like unusually good looks, is not something one deserves credit for.   It’s dumb luck or sheer blessing.  And Bono, in full confessional mode, offers back to its Giver what he regards as a gift, and he does so with an obvious sense of gratitude.  He even acknowledges that when he wrote the song he had in mind the Magnificat, the song that Mary sings upon her visitation to Elizabeth. Although the song as a whole is, he says, "about two lovers trying to hold on to each other and trying to turn their life into worship.  Not of each other, but of being alive, of God...of spirit."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There’s another confession of humility in the full-on gaze of ego in &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Stand Up Comedy&lt;/span&gt;.  There Bono sings,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;I gotta stand up to ego but my ego’s not really the enemy&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;It’s like a small child crossing an eight lane highway&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;On a voyage of discovery&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Bono knows his ego needs taming, but I think he’s here revealing a charming childlikeness, the smallness he feels in the face of it all and the glee we all used to take in the dare to “cross an eight-lane highway” just for the thrill of it.  Bono has not lost that sense of childlike glee and adventure.  The world, bent and broken though it may be, still presents itself to Bono as a vast playground or carnival, an adventure inviting him on its many rides and attractions.  And he’s (sometimes) downright giddy about being in the midst of it all.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There are several places on the album that strike notes of yearning and rebirth.  First, in &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Moment of Surrender&lt;/span&gt;, a song about a character Bono has manufactured, a war veteran who hasn’t been able to reinsert himself into civilian life or into his own skin or psyche for that matter.  As Bono puts it, “he has dragged his wife into drugs and booze, [and] he can’t live with what he’s done to her and so he breaks down beside an ATM machine and begs God to deliver them.”  The song is, I believe, the highpoint of the album.  In any case, we get these chilling lyrics sung in Bono's brooding voice:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;I’ve been in every black hole&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;At the altar of the dark star&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;My body’s now a begging bowl&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;That’s begging to get back&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Begging to get back to my heart&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;To the rhythm of my soul&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;To the rhythm of my unconsciousness&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;To the rhythm that yearns&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;To be released from control&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The way Bono envisions it, it’s this same troubled soul in &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Unknown Caller&lt;/span&gt;, who ends up in some motel trying to make a call on his cell phone.  Who’s he calling?  A drug dealer to score more drugs? Someone for help?  We don’t know.  But he doesn’t get a signal.  Instead, someone (or is it Someone) is reaching out to him with a stunning and completely unexpected (text) message.  The message tells him to,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Go, shout it out, rise up&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Oh, oh&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Escape yourself and gravity&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Hear me, cease to speak that I may speak&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Shush now….&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Restart and re-boot yourself&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;You’re free to go&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Oh, oh&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Shout for joy if you get the chance…&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I can’t help but be reminded in these lyrics of Jesus in the Gospels telling those he’s healed or forgiven, “Go; you’re free.  You’re healed.” One can only imagine or perhaps not imagine at all, if you yourself take yourself to have been forgiven or healed, then you know perfectly well that feeling of unbridled joy that comes with forgiveness and healing. And there are times either in private or public you "shout it out!"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And then, these lyrics from &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Breathe&lt;/span&gt;,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Every day I die again, and again I’m reborn&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The ideas of yearning and rebirth permeate the album and, I think, Bono’s way of being in the world.  It’s just like Bob Dylan said &lt;a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://orad.dent.kyushu-u.ac.jp/dylan/itsalrma.html"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;“That he not busy being born is busy dying.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  Anyone who is not open to being born again (&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;and again and again and again&lt;/span&gt;) is already dying and is in danger of turning to stone.  U2 have always been open to the new, to the unexpected,  to the surprising and transcendent, open to being reborn, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;again and again and again&lt;/span&gt;.  That’s what make them perpetually fresh, still attractive to fans young enough to be their teen children.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My favorite feature of the album, btw, and no doubt an element owing to the genius of Brian Eno, comes at the beginning of &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Fez-Being Born&lt;/span&gt;.  If you’ve heard the chorus to the first single off the album, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Get on Your Boots&lt;/span&gt;, you’ll recognize these lyrics&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Let me in the sound&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Let me in the sound&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Let me in the sound, sound&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Let me in the sound, sound&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Meet me in the sound&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;At the beginning of &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Fez-Being Born&lt;/span&gt;, just behind the music, a barely audible Bono can be heard to sing, begging and pleading-like,&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;let me in the sound let me in the sound&lt;br /&gt;let me in the sound, sound&lt;br /&gt;let me in the sound, sound&lt;br /&gt;let me in the sound.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That is brilliant!  This is what Bono has been born to do.  It’s the place he meets us, his fans, the place he is no doubt most himself, and the place he finds grace,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;I found grace inside of sound; I found grace it’s all that I found.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;Those beautiful lyrics are from the song, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Breathe&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Is this U2's most &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;explicitly&lt;/span&gt; Christian album?  I'm not sure I even understand the question. Some of the lyrics will no doubt send chills up the spines of those of us who fit our own stories into The (Christian) Story.  And Bono may no doubt have penned them from within The Story.  But the lyrics and the album as a whole have broader appeal.  You don't have to be a Christian to resonate with the realities about which Bono sings.  I guess I get a little annoyed when Christians say things like "this is U2's most &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;explicitly&lt;/span&gt; Christian album."  While I'm not sure what that actually means, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth.  Reading some of the theologically oriented reviews around the blogosphere leads me to believe that some  are trying too hard to mine these songs of &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;explicitly&lt;/span&gt; Chrisitan content. Sometimes a telephone pole in a movie is just a telephoe pole, with no &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;deeper&lt;/span&gt; meaning.  So, for example, when Bono sings "the sweetest melody is the one we haven't heard" in &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;I'll Go Crazy if I Don't Go Crazy Tonight&lt;/span&gt;, I've got a hunch he hasn't got Revelations 4 in mind, as &lt;a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://mockingbirdnyc.blogspot.com/2009/02/i-found-grace-inside-sound-theological.html"&gt;someone has actually suggested&lt;/a&gt;.  Just a hunch.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As to the question whether this is U2’s &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;best&lt;/span&gt; album, I'm agnostic about that, too. It may be a &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;best since&lt;/span&gt; album.  Their &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;best since&lt;/span&gt; Achtung Baby or their &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;best since&lt;/span&gt; The Unforgettable Fire.  Is it better than &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Joshua Tree&lt;/span&gt;? I think  &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Joshua Tree&lt;/span&gt; is in a class by itself. And I think we have to wait to see how NLOTH ages before we can say where it should rank in the U2 canon.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;NLOTH is a GREAT album; I LOVE it and can't stop listening to it.  And I’m pretty doggone certain an awful lot of people are going to &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;meet me in the sound&lt;/span&gt; when they &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;kiss the future&lt;/span&gt; in Chicago on September 12.  How about you?  &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Meet me in the sound?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1054707203818412735-685648545320822358?l=holyskinandbone.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/feeds/685648545320822358/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1054707203818412735&amp;postID=685648545320822358' title='13 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/685648545320822358'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/685648545320822358'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/2009/03/u2-no-line-on-horizon.html' title='U2: No Line on The Horizon'/><author><name>Kevin Corcoran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17422789329481787215</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_UIcUp4yfmZw/SdzPy_tbHJI/AAAAAAAAAEY/uGtJ6uwPXhs/S220/dad+2+at+Birds+Nest_1.JPG'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_UIcUp4yfmZw/SbLPsuxKo9I/AAAAAAAAAEQ/RurZwJWPHhM/s72-c/NoLineU2Promo.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>13</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1054707203818412735.post-7627251094441136254</id><published>2009-02-15T06:50:00.002-05:00</published><updated>2009-02-15T17:22:38.632-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Stanley Hauerwas'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='mike wittmer'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='belief'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Christian Practices'/><title type='text'>The Nature of Belief</title><content type='html'>I have a friend who is a friend of &lt;a href="http://stanleyhauerwas.blogspot.com/"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;Stanley Hauerwas&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, the Duke theologian whose reputation for foul mouthed rabble rousing is legendary.  Hauerwas has written a memoir, which he’s had my friend read through in manuscript form.  Because there are relevant similarities in life experience between Hauerwas and myself, and because my friend thought it might do my soul good to read it, he asked Hauerwas if it would be okay to share the manuscript with me.  Hauerwas agreed.  So that manuscript has provided my night time reading over this past week.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have never been much of a fan of Hauerwas.  Though I must admit, I’ve only read two of his books. The first was &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Suffering-Presence-Stanley-Hauerwas/dp/0268017220/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;qid=1234698025&amp;amp;sr=1-1"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;Suffering Presence: Theological Reflections on Medicine, the Mentally Handicapped, and the Church&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; (1986).  I was motivated to read this as a student at Yale Divinity School because of my work with people with mental retardation.  (As you may or may not know I have an undergraduate degree in social work and was a practicing social worker for about three years.)  The book did not make much of an impression.  That may say more about me than it does about the book, however, as I was all of 23 or 24 years old when I read it.  The other book of his that I read and that resonated deeply was &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Resident-Aliens-Life-Christian-Colony/dp/0687361591"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;Resident Aliens&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; (1989), a book he coauthored with William Willimon, former Dean of the Chapel at Duke.   That book I highly recommend to readers of this blog.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here in Grand Rapids I’m part of a group called &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;In Vino Theologica&lt;/span&gt; or &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;in wine there is theology&lt;/span&gt;.  It’s a motley little group of men and women, young and old, Eastern Orthodox and Protestant, Confused and Skeptical who come together to read and think about what it means to be Christian.  I try to find short(ish), thought-provoking articles for us to read beforehand and then discuss over a couple of bottles of wine and fine cheese.  Since I’ve been reading Hauerwas’s memoir I thought I would see if he had anything online that might serve the purposes of our little group.  And I came across an article he wrote in 1991 that is immediately relevant to the discussion I was having with &lt;a href="http://mikewittmer.wordpress.com/2009/02/02/conversation-with-kevin/#comments"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;Mike Wittmer&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; last week on his blog.  Mike and I were discussing the nature of Christian belief.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In that discussion I made the following claims:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;I would just point out that practices, rituals, sacraments, feasts and fasts, etc. for 1500 years of Christian history served as the primary means for the redirection and reorientation of our desires, our loves and lives, for our spiritual formation as icons of God and followers of Jesus whose end is communion with God and others. It is only since the reformation that the pendulum has swung away from the embodied practices of concrete communities as central to spiritual formation and toward the atomistic, disembodied and cerebral-centered. I suggest it’s time for the pendulum to swing in the opposite direction once again.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;When it comes to faith I am, after all these years, still a beginner. I am always ever a beginner. I’m coming to see, I guess, that I am still learning to believe, still learning how to believe. For a long time I was preoccupied with what to believe. As I get older I’m coming to see that how I believe is of equal importance. I am coming to see that belief is something that takes practice and something one learns to do over time.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the article of Hauerwas’s that I found for use in &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;In Vino&lt;/span&gt;, &lt;a href="http://www.religion-online.org/showarticle.asp?title=110"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;Discipleship as a Craft, Church as a Disciplined Community&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; Hauerwas compares becoming a Christian to learning to lay brick.  He says:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;To learn to lay brick, it is not sufficient for you to be told how to do it; you must learn to mix the mortar, build scaffolds, joint, and so on. Moreover, it is not enough to be told how to hold a trowel, how to spread mortar, or how to frog the mortar. In order to lay brick you must hour after hour, day after day, lay brick.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Of course, learning to lay brick involves learning not only myriad skills, but also a language that forms, and is formed by those skills. Thus, for example, you have to become familiar with what a trowel is and how it is to be used, as well as mortar, which bricklayers usually call "mud." Thus "frogging mud" means creating a trench in the mortar so that when the brick is placed in the mortar, a vacuum is created that almost makes the brick lay itself. Such language is not just incidental to becoming a bricklayer but is intrinsic to the practice. You cannot learn to lay brick without learning to talk "right."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The language embodies the history of the craft of bricklaying. So when you learn to be a bricklayer you are not learning a craft de novo but rather being initiated into a history. For example, bricks have different names--klinkers, etc.---to denote different qualities that make a difference about how one lays them. These differences are often discovered by apprentices being confronted with new challenges, making mistakes, and then being taught how to do the work by the more experienced.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now the comparison:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Christianity is not beliefs about God plus behavior. We are Christians not because of what we believe, but because we have been called to be disciples of Jesus. To become a disciple is not a matter of a new or changed self-understanding, but rather to become part of a different community with a different set of practices.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;For example, I am sometimes confronted by people who are not Christians but who say they want to know about Christianity. This is a particular occupational hazard for theologians around a university, because it is assumed that we are smart or at least have a Ph.D., so we must really know something about Christianity. After many years of vain attempts to "explain" God as trinity, I now say, "Well, to begin with we Christians have been taught to pray, 'Our father, who art in heaven. . .’" I then suggest that a good place to begin to understand what we Christians are about is to join me in that prayer.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;For to learn to pray is no easy matter but requires much training, not unlike learning to lay brick. It does no one any good to believe in God, at least the God we find in Jesus of Nazareth, if they have not learned to pray. To learn to pray means we must acquire humility not as something we try to do, but as commensurate with the practice of prayer. In short, we do not believe in God, become humble and then learn to pray, but in learning to pray we humbly discover we cannot do other than believe in God.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This expresses better than my feeble attempts one of the points I was attempting to make in my discussions with Mike concerning the nature of Christian belief; namely, that Christian belief takes practice.  It's not that we &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;first&lt;/span&gt; become Christians and &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;then&lt;/span&gt; as evidence of that engage in certain sorts of behavior.  Rather, it is in the very course of engaging in the practices and rituals peculiar to the Christian way of being in the world that we actually become Christian.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1054707203818412735-7627251094441136254?l=holyskinandbone.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/feeds/7627251094441136254/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1054707203818412735&amp;postID=7627251094441136254' title='5 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/7627251094441136254'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/7627251094441136254'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/2009/02/nature-of-belief.html' title='The Nature of Belief'/><author><name>Kevin Corcoran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17422789329481787215</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_UIcUp4yfmZw/SdzPy_tbHJI/AAAAAAAAAEY/uGtJ6uwPXhs/S220/dad+2+at+Birds+Nest_1.JPG'/></author><thr:total>5</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1054707203818412735.post-3478318755600201958</id><published>2009-02-14T14:11:00.004-05:00</published><updated>2009-02-14T14:37:52.864-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='eschaton'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Lying'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Liturgy'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='calling'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='consumerism'/><title type='text'>We Are Liars</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family: verdana;font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;All the world’s a stage and all the men and women merely players.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That’s what Shakespeare told us.  I think he’s mostly right.  But what can that mean for us?  Stangely, I think it means that we’re all actors and actresses and that as such our task is to lie to the world.  And to lie big and bold.  Because the bigger and bolder we lie to the world the more honest with the world we will be.  It’s just like Wilco says in their song Misunderstood.  &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;You’re honest when you’re telling a lie.&lt;/span&gt; So you and I owe it to the world to lie our fool heads off and to discharge the debt of honesty we owe to the world.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Just as our task—our &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;godly&lt;/span&gt; task!—is to lie to the world, it is the task of the world to tell the truth, and in so doing &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;dishonestly&lt;/span&gt; describe the world we inhabit.  Our task is to lie—big and bold—and in so doing to &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;honestly&lt;/span&gt; describe the world we inhabit.  I know this all sounds crazy, and it is.  It’s ridiculous.  It’s lunacy.  It’s foolishness.  But, of course, the wisdom of God is foolishness to the likes of us.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you listen to news reporters, politicians, and marketing executives they tell the truth: &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;the world is a mess, and so are we&lt;/span&gt;. Greedy men bilk investors out of billions of dollars; selfish little countries consume disproportionately large amounts of the earth’s resources, while other parts of the world languish; middle eastern nations terrorize each other while we ordinary Western men and women amuse ourselves numb with entertainment and the acquisition of stuff, believing as we do that this is what it means to be human and to flourish.  This &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;is&lt;/span&gt; the truth.  And yet this description of the world is less than honest even if it is true.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;All the world’s a stage and all the men and women merely players. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You and I, as Christ-followers, are called to be liturgical actors on the stage of the world.  We are called to theatrically enact and incarnate the big lie—&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The Eschaton&lt;/span&gt;—the lie that the world and we human beings are not as the newspeople, politicians and advertising executives truthfully describe.  The lie is that there’s another world, a new reality, another way of doing business with each other, a way characterized by peace, love, collaboration and unselfishness.  And we’re being honest when we’re telling this lie. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Just as we answer the Divine invitation and gather around a table one day a week to dramatically enact and anticipate the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;eschaton&lt;/span&gt;—the heavenly meal where differences don’t divide and where though many we are nevertheless one—so are we called as liturgical creatures to go out into the world and to theatrically incarnate and anticipate this absurdity in the warp and woof of our daily lives, and so honestly describe ourselves and the world, as we quite literally put the lie on display for all the world to see. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We’ll fail of course, at this calling of ours to lie. That's because the truth is we’re horrible liars.   Still, even though failure is certain, lie we must.  It’s our calling.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1054707203818412735-3478318755600201958?l=holyskinandbone.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/feeds/3478318755600201958/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1054707203818412735&amp;postID=3478318755600201958' title='5 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/3478318755600201958'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/3478318755600201958'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/2009/02/we-are-liars.html' title='We Are Liars'/><author><name>Kevin Corcoran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17422789329481787215</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_UIcUp4yfmZw/SdzPy_tbHJI/AAAAAAAAAEY/uGtJ6uwPXhs/S220/dad+2+at+Birds+Nest_1.JPG'/></author><thr:total>5</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1054707203818412735.post-6324316934001065850</id><published>2009-02-11T18:08:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2009-02-11T18:08:00.424-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='kingdom of god'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Heaven'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='celebration'/><title type='text'>The Party's On</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;I've been saying for a long time that we Christians need to relearn how to celebrate.  God, after all, is a party-throwing God.  And apparently, if the Gospels are to be trusted, we're all invited to the party.  Yep, all of us: Me, Mike Wittmer, Pete Rollins, what's the guy's name who delivered the inaugural prayer...um...him, Bishop Spong, Ted Haggard, James Dobson,  The Farting Preacher, and even that old curmudgeon Dissidens over at &lt;a href="http://remonstrans.net/"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;remonstrans.net&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That God is as promiscuous with his love and grace and mercy as the Bible makes God out to be makes some of us a wee bit upset, I know. But look: this whole bloody, awful, beautiful, confusing, depressing, delightful life and world history is going to climax in a party of universal proportions.  Well, that's what the bible teaches anyway.  And that's worth getting excited about.  Isn't it?  That's worth practicing for. Isn't it?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Well, I found someone else who who has been captivated by the image of this party-throwing God on a universal mission of reconciliation, healing forgiveness and celebration.  T&lt;a href="http://www.internetmonk.com/"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;his is how he puts it, and he puts &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;really&lt;/span&gt; well:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;Religion #1:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;God is mean, angry and easily provoked. From day 1, we’ve all been a disappointment, and God is–justly–planning to punish us forever. At the last minute, thanks to Jesus stepping in to calm him down, he decides to be gracious.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;But don’t do anything to mess that up. Peace is fragile around here.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;Religion #2&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;God is gracious, loving, kind, generous and open-hearted. He rejoices in us as his creations, and is grieved that our sins have made us his enemies and caused so much brokenness and pain. In Jesus, he shows us what kind of God he is and restores the joy that should belong to the children of such a Father. True to his promises, he will bless all people in Jesus, and restore the world by his resurrection victory.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-size:100%;" &gt;You can’t do anything to mess this up. God’s got his heart set on a universe wide celebration...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;We have far too many people selling religion #1. Like the Pharisees, they are the authorized representatives of the grumpy, ticked off, hacked off, very, very angry God who MIGHT….maybe, MIGHT let you off the hook….MAYBE…..IF–and it’s a very big IF–you manage to believe enough, obey enough, get the theology questions right enough, find your way to the right church, follow the right script and get the details right, down to the last “amen.”&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;p style="font-style: italic;"&gt;...We have far too few Christians who are overwhelmed at the news that God has fired the bookkeepers, sent home the bean counters, dismissed the religion cops and bought party hats for the grumpy old people. The big announcement is this: In Jesus, we discover that God is just sloppy with his amazing grace and completely beyond common sense when it comes to his love. Just to enhance his reputation as the God who know how to throw a party, he’s inviting all of us back home, no tickets necessary, no dress code, for a party that will last, literally, forever. With open bar, and all on him. (Oh calm down Baptists. You can go to another room.)...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-style: italic;"&gt;...The Father will have his party. Even for the undeserving kid who doesn’t quite get it. Even for the Pharisee-wannabe who is horrified that dad’s not cooperating with the system.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="font-style: italic;"&gt;God will be gracious. God will be good. God will be overflowing in love. God will be good to the world. God will bless the nations. God will put his lamb and his Spirit and his loving face at the center of a universe made over in the image of the greatest wedding bash/banquet you could ever imagine...&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="font-style: italic;"&gt;...Your ticket to this event will most certainly NOT have a denominational name on it. Nor will your seat at the table be determined by your church or your theological team. The grace and goodness of God is going to erase all the lines, boxes, definitions, fences, dictionaries, sermons, announcements and pronouncements ever made. Your Biblical interpretations won’t amount to a hill of beans. God himself, and his good grace, will be the star of the show...&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="font-style: italic;"&gt;...God’s gracious face makes our religion fall apart. It takes away all our soapboxes. It shuts our mouths, because none of us deserve it and all of us can have it. God’s love and grace are so far beyond our ideas of what they ought to be that none of our ideas about God can survive the good news that comes in Jesus. Jesus is a salvation, grace, goodness, God revolution...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;...Let’s stop it. Let’s stop hiding the face of a gracious God. Let’s show it, sing it, worship in its light, live as if we know that gracious, glorious God as the one the Bible proclaims and who comes to us in Jesus.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;p style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Let’s enjoy the face of a gracious God. Now and forever.&lt;/p&gt;Preach it, brother!  Preach it again!  And then preach it one more time!  Let's all of us preach it, try to live it and then practice for it.  Practice for it? Yes; practice for it. How? By throwing some parties  of our own in anticipation of the one that's coming.  (First, though, I've gotta kick this sore throat.....)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(You can read the original post, by imonk, in its entirety by clicking &lt;a href="http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/the-face-of-gracious-god"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;here&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.)&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1054707203818412735-6324316934001065850?l=holyskinandbone.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/feeds/6324316934001065850/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1054707203818412735&amp;postID=6324316934001065850' title='10 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/6324316934001065850'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/6324316934001065850'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/2009/02/partys-on.html' title='The Party&apos;s On'/><author><name>Kevin Corcoran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17422789329481787215</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_UIcUp4yfmZw/SdzPy_tbHJI/AAAAAAAAAEY/uGtJ6uwPXhs/S220/dad+2+at+Birds+Nest_1.JPG'/></author><thr:total>10</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1054707203818412735.post-1991571581772192974</id><published>2009-02-08T19:25:00.006-05:00</published><updated>2009-02-11T14:06:11.088-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='resurrection'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='emergent'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='belief'/><title type='text'>Which Came First: Chicken or Egg?  Thoughts about Belief and Chrsitian Faith</title><content type='html'>It’s been a VERY long time since my last post.  Since then I finished an academic semester, been to London and Belfast and participated on a panel at the Calvin Institute for Christian Worship’s &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Worship Symposium&lt;/span&gt; with &lt;a href="http://deepchurch.org.uk/"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;Jason Clark&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;&lt;a href="http://peterrollins.net/"&gt;Pete Rollins&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/span&gt;on Emerging Christianity.  And I’ve also been trying to explain on someone’s blog claims I made at the panel discussion concerning belief and Christianity.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;First, a word about the panel.  As I said, the panel was made up of myself, Jason Clark and Pete Rollins with &lt;a href="http://forsclavigera.blogspot.com/"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;Jamie Smith&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, Lori Wilson and &lt;a href="http://mikewittmer.wordpress.com/"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;Mike Wittmer&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; acting as respondents.  &lt;a href="http://bringingheaven.blogspot.com/"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;Nathan Bierma&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; deftly played the role of moderator.  We attracted somewhere between 120-130 to the four hour panel discussion and roughly another 100 over the course of the next two days at one-hour discussions for those who didn’t make it to the panel.  The Worship Symposium as a whole drew some 1400 participants from 38 different countries.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The impetus for the panel is a book that Pete, Jason, myself and Scot McKnight are doing addressing various issues in emerging.  We gathered (except for Scot) the day before the symposium to go over drafts of our chapters.  It was for me an enormously beneficial experience; both the colloquium at which we went over chapter drafts and the panel discussion.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Okay, now to the meat and potatoes.  At the panel discussion, Mike Wittmer, a theologian at Grand Rapids Theological Seminary, asked the panel whether there are any beliefs that are necessary to be a Christian.  He wanted to know if someone could be a follower of Christ and lack belief in the resurrection, for example.  Each of the panel members was reluctant to answer the question. Speaking for myself, I said that I was reluctant only because belief admits of different grammars and that the question(er) suggested there was only one.  I said there that belief must be thought of not synchronically (as happening at a specific point in time) but diachronically (as something that happens over time).  I elaborated on this later on &lt;a href="http://mikewittmer.wordpress.com/2009/02/02/conversation-with-kevin/#comments"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;Mike Wittmer’s blog&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let me state briefly how I am thinking of belief and you good folks (if there are any of you left out there) can tell me what you think.  The preferred grammar of the questioner is the grammar of assent, the view that belief is &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;belief that&lt;/span&gt;: belief &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;that&lt;/span&gt; Jesus was both God and human; belief &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;that&lt;/span&gt; Jesus rose from the dead, etc.  Here the idea is that belief is belief &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;that&lt;/span&gt; certain propositions are true, and he wanted to know if in order to be a follower of Christ one must assent to certain propositions and if so, which ones.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My response was to tell a story about Pascal, who upon being told by a friend that he wanted to become a Christian, doesn’t tell the guy what to believe; rather, Pascal tells him to “go to Mass and take the Eucharist.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The idea here is that belief can be the result of engaging in certain practices and rituals.  Now most 21st Century, Western, Protestant Christians probably think that engaging in Christian practices or rituals follows on the heels of belief.  Pascal suggests that the causal chain runs in the opposite direction, from practices and rituals to belief.  Indeed, most of us probably think that belief is what brings about salvation itself and not salvation that brings about belief.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;God, I take it, is never satisfied with &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;belief that&lt;/span&gt;. God is interested in the total reorientation and rearrangement of our lives, our loves, our desires our entire way of being in the world. The important question is whether being a Christian is fundamentally and primarily about belief that certain propositions are true.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;At the most basic level it seems clear to me that God is most interested in the total reorganization and reconfiguration of human life, of reorienting the human will, heart, desires and loves. God is interested in our moral and existential transformation. This of course is in no way incompatible with belief that certain propositions of the relevant sort are true. But the goal is transformed lives, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;not&lt;/span&gt; belief in “Jesus facts.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And this is why when asked whether followers of Christ &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;must&lt;/span&gt; know and put their trust in him, I’m inclined to point out that “being a Christian” (like belief) is progressive, that I am even now, and after all these years still &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;becoming&lt;/span&gt; a Christian.   Followers of Christ must, of course, put their trust in him. I must put my trust in him: &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;today&lt;/span&gt; I must; &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;tomorrow&lt;/span&gt; I must, and &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;the next day&lt;/span&gt; I must. My frustration with myself is that I often put my trust in Christ one moment and then take it back the next.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As to the resurrection and whether someone could become a follower of Jesus before they come to believe in the resurrection, this is what I said on MW’s blog:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“I think that someone could become a follower of Jesus BEFORE they come to believe in the resurrection. But let me preface this…by saying that I agree that the resurrection of Jesus is indeed an essential piece of the Jesus story.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“Suppose you’re a fledgling writer. And suppose you meet someone at a writer’s workshop in Ann Arbor, another author with whom you share coffee and conversation during the breaks. Suppose this author speaks with you throughout the three day conference about the ins and outs of constructing plot and characters and does so in a way that you’ve never experienced before. You find yourself drawn to this author and to his words, even more so than the author leading the workshop. Suppose he has the effect of revolutionizing your own writing and that after all that time you spent together at the workshop you never bothered to get his last name. You knew him simply as John, the name on his name tag.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“Now suppose you go home utterly changed as a writer. Your writing from that workshop on is of a different caliber and gravitas than what preceded it. And then suppose that a week, a month, a year later you read an article in a writer’s magazine about the weekend John Updike attended a workshop in Ann Arbor and about the many conversations he had with this fledgling writer from Grand Rapids. You’re stunned! You’re shocked! You spent three days conversing with John Updike, whose work you love, and you didn’t even know it was John Updike. Now you do.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“The point of this little story is obvious. It’s certainly possible for you to have an experience of someone, to have your life changed by this someone, without at that very moment knowing who or what that someone is or is about. I imagine the resurrected Jesus could draw people to himself without those people knowing at the time of meeting who he is or what he’s done. Knowledge of that sort, if things go well, will come.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I went on to make a point about the resurrection itself.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“I want to stress again that the resurrection of Jesus gets its meaning and weight from the story it’s embedded in. Apart from that story it’s no more than a historical curiosity. I’m not interested in getting people simply to believe that a guy named Jesus was resurrected from the grave, and I doubt you [MW] are either. The good news is that our sins have been forgiven, that God has reconciled us, that there’s a new way to be human and that everything has changed because of the incarnation, life, death AND resurrection of Jesus. The incarnation, life, death and resurrection of Jesus are themselves embedded in a six thousand year old, unfolding story of a bent and broken world and a God working for its restoration and renewal. In other words, the resurrection as an isolated factoid is not what is of paramount importance. It’s the resurrection as part of God’s program of love and reconciliation that is the issue of supreme importance.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Well, that was my last and final contribution to the discussion on Mike’s blog.  Thoughts?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1054707203818412735-1991571581772192974?l=holyskinandbone.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/feeds/1991571581772192974/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1054707203818412735&amp;postID=1991571581772192974' title='22 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/1991571581772192974'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/1991571581772192974'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/2009/02/which-came-first-chicken-or-egg.html' title='Which Came First: Chicken or Egg?  Thoughts about Belief and Chrsitian Faith'/><author><name>Kevin Corcoran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17422789329481787215</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_UIcUp4yfmZw/SdzPy_tbHJI/AAAAAAAAAEY/uGtJ6uwPXhs/S220/dad+2+at+Birds+Nest_1.JPG'/></author><thr:total>22</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1054707203818412735.post-6791636720921133379</id><published>2008-10-23T10:05:00.008-04:00</published><updated>2008-10-25T11:45:29.401-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='evolution'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='naturalism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='chrisitian materialism'/><title type='text'>Consciousness and the Culture Wars</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;It’s been quite a while since my last blog post.  And what does it take to awaken me from my blogmatic slumbers?  Headlines like this:  &lt;a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20026793.000-creationists-declare-war-over-the-brain.html?DCMP=ILC-hmts&amp;amp;nsref=news1_head_mg20026793.000"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Creationists Declare War over the Brain&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.  Not again!  Not another surd in the so-called culture wars.  Say it ain’t so; please, say it ain’t so.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I’m afraid it is so.  Apparently, there was an “international symposium” titled &lt;a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://www.mindbodysymposium.com/"&gt;Beyond the Mind-Body Problem: New Paradigms in the Science of Consciousness &lt;/a&gt;held in New York last month.  And in August, the Discovery Institute (home to Intelligent Design thinkers and supporters) held their annual &lt;a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://www.discovery.org/scripts/viewDB/index.php?command=view&amp;amp;id=301&amp;amp;program=CSC-Society&amp;amp;isEvent=true"&gt;Briefing on Intelligent Design&lt;/a&gt;, at which two putative neuroscienists—(I say “putative” only because I have not yet had the opportunity to review their credentials and because I have suspicions about agenda-driven “science” whether it emanates from the Discovery Institute or from the likes of Dawkins and Hitchens; and I put “science” in scare quotes because usually when you’ve got cultural agenda in the neighborhood a lot of stuff gets called “science” which isn’t)—as I was saying, the Discovery Institute hosted their annual confab at which two putative neuroscientists spoke, two scientists who also headlined the “international symposium."  These “scientists” (and for all I know they may have impeccable credentials; but until I get the chance to check them out, I'm going keep "science" in scare quotes) these "scientists" claim that the fact of consciousness constitutes “Darwinism’s grave.”  And in the aftermath of “Darwinism,” with “Darwinism” (whatever that is; about as helpful a term as "evangelical" or "postmodernism") having been buried, there’s now room for what they call “non-material neuroscience” a “science” they themselves allegedly practice.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Well, there are many, I say MANY, issues embedded in this “non-material neuroscience” movement that deserve attention.  I’m going to address a few of them.  I do so not as a neuroscientist, but rather as a Christian philosopher with a keen interest in consciousness and neuroscience, a professor who regularly teaches a course called &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Minds, Brains and Persons&lt;/span&gt;, (a course in which we puzzle over the mystery of consciousness and just how it relates to neural goings-on between our ears), and someone who has published a couple of articles and books on related issues.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;First, although there are others more competent than myself who can speak to the ID movement as such, notably among them my colleague, &lt;a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://sfmatheson.blogspot.com/"&gt;Steve Matheson&lt;/a&gt;, I will say this:  to the extent that ID claims that the level of complexity found in biological systems exceeds that which evolution, i.e., natural mechanisms, could have produced, then if God has in fact brought about biological systems through natural mechanisms (i.e., through evolution), I think God’s going to be pretty surprised to learn that God could not have in fact done this! I can state the point much more succinctly: isn’t it a bit presumptuous to lay down &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;a priori&lt;/span&gt; how God &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;has&lt;/span&gt; to do things?!!! Of course it is; it’s presumptuous (as uncle Al Plantinga might say) &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;in excelsis.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Second, let me say something about consciousness and the brain.  For starters, it’s no secret, no new revelation to any of us—hard core dualists, atheistic materialists or even Christian materialists like myself—that consciousness has so far escaped the materialist-naturalist net of explanation.  Why is that? Why hasn’t consciousness yielded to natural explanation? Is it because no naturalistic ‘link’ exists between neurophysiological goings-on in the brain and ‘technicolor’ phenomenology or is there a solution to the mystery that characterizes the relation between the mental and the physical and that solution is to be found in an immaterial mind or soul?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;According to one atheistic philosopher there is indeed a natural property that accounts for the psychophysical link.  Says Colin McGinn, a notable philosopher of mind,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Resolutely shunning the supernatural, I think it is undeniable that it  &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;    must be in virtue of some natural property of the brain that organisms&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;    are conscious.  There just has to be some explanation for how brains&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;    subserve minds.  &lt;/span&gt;(From &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Can We Solve the Mind-Body Problem&lt;/span&gt;,&lt;br /&gt;Blackwell's, 1994, p.6)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now McGinn thinks that we are constitutionally incapable of &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;ever&lt;/span&gt; discovering that link.  But, he assures us, it is a &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;natural&lt;/span&gt; link and indeed it &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;has&lt;/span&gt; to be.  It has to be because we must—as good materialists/naturalists—&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;shun the supernatural&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Well, it’s clear that by “resolutely shunning the supernatural” McGinn means to rule out--again, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;a priori&lt;/span&gt;--the existence of God, the soul or anything supernatural or immaterial.  To put it another way, McGinn is a &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;metaphysical &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;naturalist&lt;/span&gt;, i.e., a naturalist about &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;everything&lt;/span&gt;: the natural world is all there is and so it is exhaustive of reality.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But look:  one needn’t embrace that exaggerated claim in order to believe that it is in virtue of &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;some&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span&gt;natural&lt;/span&gt; property of brains that organisms are conscious.  I, for example, am a theist, a supernaturalist you might say.  I believe in God the Father almighty, maker of heaven and earth.  And since I believe in the God of the Christian Scriptures, I believe neither that the natural world is all there is, nor that the natural world is “causally closed.”  I believe, in other words, that God can intervene in the natural world, that God has done so and, sometimes, continues to do so.  And I believe that it is in virtue of some natural property of brains that we are conscious.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Furthermore, I believe that, for the most part, God does not &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;directly&lt;/span&gt; intervene in the natural world.  Since the natural world has yielded in so many ways to scientific (i.e., naturalistic) explanation over the past several hundred years, it seems eminently plausible to believe that God created the world—the natural world—with its own integrity and such that it operates according to regularities that can be grasped and understood, not only by those who acknowledge its author, but by those who do not and whose explanations, though &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;natural&lt;/span&gt; and &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;accurate&lt;/span&gt;, do not appeal to the author of nature.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Since God created the natural world, and all that it contains, with its own integrity, it is also reasonable to believe that consciousness itself—a feature encountered in the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;natural&lt;/span&gt; world—has a &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;natural&lt;/span&gt; explanation.  That’s my position anyway. So it seems clear to me that we can accept the claim that it is in virtue of a &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;natural&lt;/span&gt; property of the brain that organisms are conscious without accepting &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;metaphysical&lt;/span&gt; naturalism.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Perhaps some distinctions will help.  Begin (and for our purposes, end) by distinguishing &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;metaphysical&lt;/span&gt; naturalism from both &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;methodological&lt;/span&gt; naturalism and what we might call &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;chastened&lt;/span&gt; naturalism.  &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Metaphysical&lt;/span&gt; naturalism, again, amounts to the claim that the natural world is all there is and is exhaustive of reality.  &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Methodological&lt;/span&gt; naturalism, on the other hand, amounts to a presupposition about the practice of science.  It says that &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;scientific&lt;/span&gt; explanations must exclude reference to &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;super&lt;/span&gt;natural or &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;immaterial&lt;/span&gt; entities.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now if science is in the business of discovering &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;natural&lt;/span&gt; causes, this ought not to surprise or offend.  &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Methodological&lt;/span&gt; naturalism, as I understand it, is perfectly compatible with a robust Christian theism insofar as it does &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;not&lt;/span&gt; rule out explanations that appeal to God.  It simply will not count such explanations as &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;scientific&lt;/span&gt; explanations.  Moreover, what I want to call &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;chastened&lt;/span&gt; naturalism recognizes the enormous contribution science has made to our understanding of the natural world and takes the natural world to possess its own integrity and to exemplify regularities that can be understood without reference to any immaterial or supernatural entities.  What makes it &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;chastened&lt;/span&gt; naturalism is its refusal to go “metaphysical” and to claim that the natural world is all there is and, therefore, that the sciences are the only source of genuine knowledge.   &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Chastened&lt;/span&gt; naturalism is compatible with there being religious experience and Divine revelation.  Such experience and revelation provides for religious knowledge, which is &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;genuine&lt;/span&gt; knowledge even if not visible to the practice of science and by definition not &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;scientific&lt;/span&gt; knowledge.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In short, to grant to &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;atheistic&lt;/span&gt; naturalists that it is in virtue of some &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;natural&lt;/span&gt; property of brains that organisms are conscious does not require us to sacrifice our theistic or Christian commitments.  It doesn’t even require us to deny that consciousness is a result of Divine activity.  Why?  Because since when is God precluded from acting through &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;naturalistic&lt;/span&gt; mechanisms?  Did God fashion you in your mother’s womb?  Yes.  Well, how did he do that?  I suggest picking up any biology textbook and reading the chapter on embryology. There you will find the answer.  You are not, however, likely to find there any mention of God.  That’s not surprising, though; is it?  What you find there is the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;naturalistic&lt;/span&gt; explanation for your coming to be. And there's nothing &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;atheistic&lt;/span&gt; about it.  Who made up the rule that natural (explanation) is incompatible with God?  I didn't get that memo.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, what is the solution to the problem of consciousness?  I'll say it again—and say so with no embarrassment—I have no idea.  Like McGinn and Leibniz before him I think consciousness continues to prove itself intractable.  It remains a mystery. But I'm not convinced that we will &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;never&lt;/span&gt; solve it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But doesn't the fact that materialist neuroscientists have so far failed to solve the problem drive us ineluctably to substance &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;dualism&lt;/span&gt;? Well, the “neuroscientists” funded by the Discovery Institute think so. I, however, think not.  Let me tell you why, why the fact of consciousness, though profoundly puzzling to materialists, ought not to be viewed by dualists as grounds for celebrating victory in the mind-body debate.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here’s a little argument for dualism, based on consciousness:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(i) Materialism or dualism is true&lt;br /&gt;(ii) We human beings are conscious creatures&lt;br /&gt;(iii) It is a mystery how it is that we human beings are conscious creatures if materialism is true&lt;br /&gt;Therefore,&lt;br /&gt;(iv) The fact that we human beings are conscious creatures is a good reason     for believing dualism is true&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is not, of course, a good argument.  Suppose we know about John only that he is either a full-time auto-mechanic or a full-time janitor.  Suppose too that we know that John attends philosophy colloquia at Calvin College every Tuesday afternoon.  The fact that it is difficult to see how it could be that John attends philosophy colloquia at Calvin every Tuesday afternoon &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;if&lt;/span&gt; John is an auto-mechanic is no good reason to believe he is a janitor.  In other words, it needs to be shown how John's attending philosophy colloquia makes it &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;more&lt;/span&gt; likely that he is a janitor than that he is an auto mechanic.  Likewise, just because we can’t see how consciousness emerges from matter makes it no more likely that it owes to an immaterial soul.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But isn’t it &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;much easier&lt;/span&gt; to see how it is that we human beings are conscious if dualism is true than it is if we are wholly physical beings, i.e., if some version of materialism is true?  I don’t think so.  Is it really any easier to see how an &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;immaterial&lt;/span&gt; soul could be conscious than it is to see how a &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;material&lt;/span&gt; being could be? If anything it may seem &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;harder&lt;/span&gt;, owing simply to the fact that it is difficult to imagine an immaterial soul.  Peter van Inwagen—a Christian and philosopher who is recognized by his philosophical peers as among the very best analytic philospophers currently working—has argued for the claim that since we know quite a lot about physical objects the mystery of consciousness is glaring. There is, he believes, a corresponding &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;ignorance&lt;/span&gt; about &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;non-physical&lt;/span&gt; objects that has had the tendency to conceal the mystery for dualists.  But the fact of the matter really is this: &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;consciousness is a mystery for all of us&lt;/span&gt;.  It is no less a mystery for dualists than it is for materialists.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So the fact that consciousness has not yielded to natural explanation is not, despite the claims of the non-material neuroscientists, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Darwinism’s grave&lt;/span&gt;.  (I still want to know what view or views “Darwinism” is supposed to pick out.  But that’s a topic better left to my friend Steve over at &lt;a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://sfmatheson.blogspot.com/"&gt;Quintessence of Dust&lt;/a&gt;.  And it’s probably already been addressed there.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I can think of at least two reasons for believing that naturalism--in terms either of consciousness or evolution--poses a problem for theism. (i)  assume that God cannot work through &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;natural&lt;/span&gt; mechanisms or (ii) identifiy naturalism with &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;metaphysical&lt;/span&gt; naturalism. I see no reason to embrace either (i) or (ii).  Until I do, I will remain a (chastened) naturalist and a Christian theist.  And with any luck, I will also remain employed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1054707203818412735-6791636720921133379?l=holyskinandbone.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/feeds/6791636720921133379/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1054707203818412735&amp;postID=6791636720921133379' title='13 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/6791636720921133379'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/6791636720921133379'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/2008/10/consciousness-and-culture-wars.html' title='Consciousness and the Culture Wars'/><author><name>Kevin Corcoran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17422789329481787215</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_UIcUp4yfmZw/SdzPy_tbHJI/AAAAAAAAAEY/uGtJ6uwPXhs/S220/dad+2+at+Birds+Nest_1.JPG'/></author><thr:total>13</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1054707203818412735.post-8267168442706932516</id><published>2008-09-10T17:25:00.004-04:00</published><updated>2008-09-10T17:57:32.248-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='politics'/><title type='text'>Lipstick, Pigs and Politics</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;Politics makes me sick.  And I don't generally blog about it.  But, blog about it today I must.  You will find below a 47 second clip of Obama's "you can put lipstick on a pig; but, it's still a pig" line.  How anyone could possibly hear that as directed at Sarah Palin is baffling.  That McCain allowed his campaign to pick up on it and use it in their own campaign ads to misrepresent Obama as sexist is shameful.  It's clear by what immediately precedes Obama's remark that he's talking about McCain and the policies he's pushing under the banner of "change."  You can call them by whatever names you want, but it's the same bill of goods we've been sold the past eight years.  That is clearly Obama's point.  And he's right, at least about the philosophical point. For as Lincoln taught so long ago, calling a horse's tail a leg does not make a horse to have five legs.  Calling the same old policies by different names does not make them different policies.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If there's anything worth discussing it's whether there are substantive differences between McCain's proposed policies and Bush's.  But this business about sexism and Palin bashing by Obama is just plain politics.  And it's ugly.  About as ugly as I suspect lipstick on a pig would be.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Would to God that most Americans will be able to see this for what it is.Alright. 'nuff said.  Here's the clip:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object height="344" width="425"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/-c3ebgazZ3c&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;fs=1"&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/-c3ebgazZ3c&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" height="344" width="425"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1054707203818412735-8267168442706932516?l=holyskinandbone.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/feeds/8267168442706932516/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1054707203818412735&amp;postID=8267168442706932516' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/8267168442706932516'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/8267168442706932516'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/2008/09/lipstick-pigs-and-politics.html' title='Lipstick, Pigs and Politics'/><author><name>Kevin Corcoran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17422789329481787215</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_UIcUp4yfmZw/SdzPy_tbHJI/AAAAAAAAAEY/uGtJ6uwPXhs/S220/dad+2+at+Birds+Nest_1.JPG'/></author><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1054707203818412735.post-1222404265573272546</id><published>2008-08-14T17:10:00.004-04:00</published><updated>2008-08-14T21:00:49.037-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='homosexuality'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='ethics'/><title type='text'>Thinking Through Homosexuality</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;I've been sitting on this one for a while now.   I am going to begin by laying out a few assumptions.  Then I'm going to present a few thoughts and questions concerning the moral permissibility of the practice of homosexuality.  I will follow this up with a discussion of a common line of argument against the moral permissibility of homosexual practice.  Then I will extend an invitation to you to share your thoughts and concerns.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For the purposes of this discussion (please read those six words again, carefully; I'll wait....okay...finished?) I make the following three assumptions.  First, I will assume that homosexual practice is at cross-purposes with God's design for human sexual behavior. Second, I will assume that one's sexual orientation--whether one is attracted to members of the same or opposite sex--is not, generally, under one's voluntary control.  Just as I did not awake one day and &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;decide&lt;/span&gt; to be attracted to members of the opposite sex, I assume that most homosexual men and women did not awake one day and &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;decide&lt;/span&gt; to be attracted to members of the same sex.  Finally, I am going to assume, based on the biblical witness, that under less than ideal conditions God sometimes makes accommodations to those condtions and makes allowances for activities and practices that run orthogonal to God's ultimate purposes and intentions.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'll have more to say about the first and third assumptions as we proceed. For now, I want to note that the following practices  would seem to be at cross-purposes with God's intentions for human relations (sexual and otherwise): war, divorce/remarriage, polygamy (I'm assuming for the sake of this discussion that God's design for human sexual practice was &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;one&lt;/span&gt; man/&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;one&lt;/span&gt; woman couplings &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;until death does part the couple&lt;/span&gt;).  In the case of the first two (war and divorce/remarriage), many of us believe that it is sometimes morally permissible to engage in these practices which are at cross-purposes with  God's good intentions for human relations.  The idea might run something like this: these practices, while &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;not&lt;/span&gt; the best &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;all things being equal&lt;/span&gt;, are sometimes the best &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;all things considered&lt;/span&gt;. In other words, under ideal conditions (when things go the way originally intended) these practices would not be engaged in.  Sadly, however, under less than ideal conditions, such as the actual conditions under which we live, engaging in these practices can be morally justified and so are morally permitted.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Interestingly, in the case of polygamy, the bible never explicitly forbids the practice, although most of the readers of this blog, and the communities to which we belong, surely would forbid it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The question is obvious: what is the relevant &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;dissimilarity&lt;/span&gt; between the practice of homosexuality and the practices of war and divorce/remarriage?  Granting (again, for the sake of this discussion) that all of these practices are at cross-purposes with God's ultimately good intentions, why does the bible, and why do many of us, make allowances for war and divorce/remarriage, holding them to be morally permissible under certain circumstances, but fail to make any such allowance for the practice of homosexuality?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That is a question worth pondering, and worth answering, but only after you've first pondered for a spell.  Here is one common line of response:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Well the relevant difference is that in the case of war and divorce the&lt;br /&gt;bible itself makes allowances whereas in the case of the practice of&lt;br /&gt;homosexuality, this is not so; and in fact, in the case of homosexuality&lt;br /&gt;the practice is explicitly forbidden in scripture. Since the scriptures&lt;br /&gt;make no allowance for it neither should we.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;First let me just note an interesting asymmetry. There are sexually immoral practices that the bible does &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;not&lt;/span&gt; explicitly forbid (e.g., polygamy), but which we do; and there are sexually immoral practices the bible &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;does&lt;/span&gt; explicitly forbid and, so the argument goes, so should we, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;unless the bible itself makes accommodation for them&lt;/span&gt;.  That's interesting I think.  It's interesting, first of all, that a sexually immoral practice like polygamy is not explicitly forbade in the bible.  (I say 'sexually immoral' based on the assumption above that God's original design was &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;one&lt;/span&gt; man/&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;one&lt;/span&gt; woman.)  And it's interesting, not to mention &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;relevant&lt;/span&gt;, that there are practices that are at cross-purposes with God's ultimately good intentions for human (sexual) relations, and which God forbids, but which the scriptures (or God) makes allowances for and permits (e.g., divorce).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here is what I find most interesting and what I would like for you to help me think through. There is an interesting and relevant &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;similarity&lt;/span&gt; when it comes to the sorts of reasons behind a biblically based accommodation of war and divorce and the sorts of reasons that might be offered for extending an accommodation to the practice of monogamous homosexual unions.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Consider: why would a practice like war or divorce be morally permissible when such practices result in fragmentation, disintegration and human impoverishment, features of human existence that are far, far from God's good, life-enhancing purposes for creation?   Well, sadly, in this broken world of ours, as I've already mentioned, these sorts of practices can be &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;better&lt;/span&gt;, all things considered, than any of the available alternatives (e.g., in the case of divorce the alternatives might be perpetual abuse, a marriage partner whose addictions threaten the welfare of the family, etc.).  Likewise, it might be argued, that the practice of monogamous homosexual unions can be better than any of the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;available&lt;/span&gt; alternatives, e.g., a life of serial partners, a life w/o love and companionship, a life of self-loathing and flagellation, etc. Might the words of St. Paul to heterosexuals apply here too: "Better to marry than to burn."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But why, it might be asked, doesn't the bible and church history make such allowances for the practice of homosexual behavior when it does for such a practice as divorce?  If St. Paul had reasoned the way suggested in the previous paragraph, wouldn't he have made just such an allowance?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here I wonder whether or not there is a relevant &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;dissimilarity&lt;/span&gt; in the social structures that existed in the ancient world and those that exist now, differences that might provide an answer to our question.  Let me put it this way, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;had&lt;/span&gt; the social structures that exist today existed in biblical times &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;would&lt;/span&gt; the biblical writers (St. Paul or the OT writers) have made an allowance for the practice of monogamous homosexual unions?  What I have in mind here is this.  It seems to me to be the case, for example, that contemporary configurations of family would be scarcely recognized in the ancient world.  I'm told in fact that in the early church (and I need to verify this; so, if you have some evidence I'd like to become acquainted w/it) people with multiple wives and children were welcomed into Christian community.  Again, assuming such a practice is at cross-purposes with God's intentions for human sexual practice, one can only imagine the churches were faced with a conundrum: these people came to Christ already embedded in a certain family configuration.  What was the church to say to such people, "I know you have three wives and seven children between you, but I'm afraid you must sever your family &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;if&lt;/span&gt; you are to be a part of the community?"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It could be argued that we are in a similar sort of situation vis a vis homosexual families.  Suppose a homosexual couple with children come to Christ and seek membership in a Christian community.  Is the community to say, "You are welcome here; but, first you must sever your family."?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What may be well worth considering in such a discussion as this is whether the relevant comparison is not between war or divorce and the practice of homosexual behavior, but that between the practice of homosexual unions and the practice of polygamy in the bible and the early church.  Granting (for the sake of argument) that both practices run orthogonal to God's intentions for human sexuality, might accommodations and allowances be made when it comes to homosexual unions in recognition of the less than ideal conditions under which we live?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And with that, I throw it open to you.  I would greatly appreciate your help in thinking through these issues.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1054707203818412735-1222404265573272546?l=holyskinandbone.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/feeds/1222404265573272546/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1054707203818412735&amp;postID=1222404265573272546' title='17 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/1222404265573272546'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/1222404265573272546'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/2008/08/thinking-through-homosexuality.html' title='Thinking Through Homosexuality'/><author><name>Kevin Corcoran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17422789329481787215</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_UIcUp4yfmZw/SdzPy_tbHJI/AAAAAAAAAEY/uGtJ6uwPXhs/S220/dad+2+at+Birds+Nest_1.JPG'/></author><thr:total>17</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1054707203818412735.post-8741632844014358768</id><published>2008-07-29T15:00:00.003-04:00</published><updated>2008-07-29T15:00:01.361-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='death'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='evolution'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='sin'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='creation'/><title type='text'>Sin, Death and Original Conditions</title><content type='html'>This past week there were two very interesting posts around the blogosphere that are related, even if not obviously so.  The first was a post over at &lt;a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jasonclark.ws/2008/07/24/the-secret-history-of-animals/"&gt;Jason Clark's&lt;/a&gt; by Stephen Webb.  This was the third post in a three-post series on creation care and animal rights.  The second was a post at &lt;a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://www.jesuscreed.org/?p=4130"&gt;Scot McKnight's&lt;/a&gt; on Augustine (or really, St. Paul) and the doctrine of original sin.  Both posts raise important and interesting questions or puzzles about evolutionary creation and the biblical narrative .  (The phrase &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;evolutionary creation&lt;/span&gt; is one I am very fond of and picked up from my friend &lt;a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://sfmatheson.blogspot.com/2008/07/why-one-should-wash-thoroughly-after.html"&gt;Steve Matheson&lt;/a&gt;, whose blog is always worth a visit or two or sometimes three. EC is a more apt locution than &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;theistic evolution&lt;/span&gt; in that the latter might suggest such things as &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;theistic&lt;/span&gt; chemistry, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;theistic&lt;/span&gt; embryology or &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;theistic&lt;/span&gt; whiffle-ball.  But there's really just chemistry, embryology and whiffle-ball.  Likewise, there is really just evolution.  Some, like me, think that's how God created the natural world; but, adding &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;theistic&lt;/span&gt; to evolution is as strange, I think, as adding it to whilffle-ball.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let me start with Scot's post. Scot's provocative question was simply this: &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;is there a gospel without original sin?&lt;/span&gt; Now to my ears, that's not a difficult question to answer at all. The answer is, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;no&lt;/span&gt;! There is no &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;good&lt;/span&gt; news without the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;bad&lt;/span&gt; news of things having gone terribly awry, without there having been a cataclysmic fracturing of creation and ensuing misery. In any event, the puzzles and questions are just beneath the surface of Scot's question (and my answer), especially for those who accept evolutionary creation (as opposed to what the ID defenders are pedaling and what old-school creationists hawk) .&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The puzzles are these. According to St. Paul, sin and death are related as cause and effect. The sin of the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;old&lt;/span&gt; man, the dirt-man--Adam--resulted in death and destruction.  Death, on this view, is an intrusion into God’s good creation.  It is the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;new&lt;/span&gt; man--Jesus from Nazareth--who undoes, atones for, puts to rights, and otherwise deals with sin and, according to St. Paul, it is the incarnation, life, death and especially the resurrection of Jesus that gains victory over both sin &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;and death&lt;/span&gt;. See Romans 5.12, for example.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The problem or puzzle is how to reconcile the biblical story with an evolutionary account of our origins, especially the idea that death is an intruder into a previously deathless, earthly paradise.  (There is also the problem of reconciling the idea of a historical, single Adam.  Though, I myself find that issue less troublesome than the issue of death, and sin.)  If you believe that God reveals himself in both books, that of nature and the bible, then you’ve got some explaining to do, as the two witnesses seem to give conflicting accounts.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Do you think the two can ultimately be reconciled?  If so, how?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now, over at Jason Clark’s blog, Stephen Webb suggests that animals were originally domesticated and that, apparently, either those ferocious fangs of the saber tooth tiger did not, pre-fall, exist at all or, if they did, they were not used for ripping to pieces its prey.  In fact, to hear Stephen tell it, the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;predator/prey&lt;/span&gt; structure of the non-human animal kingdom is not original to creation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Obviously, Webb’s view is also incompatible with an evolutionary account of our origins, with the very idea of common descent.  One way to handle this problem is  simply to dismiss the notion of evolution/common descent and embrace one of its rivals, ID or Young Earth Creationism.  To do so, however, comes at a significant cost, namely, the cost of discounting the overwhelming evidence of common descent as a piece of Divine Deception.  In other words, it may look for all the world like all living things are related by common ancestry, but they’re not really.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;With respect to the first issue—death and evolution—I have some thoughts.  But I’m really interested in how you folks think about these matters.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1054707203818412735-8741632844014358768?l=holyskinandbone.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/feeds/8741632844014358768/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1054707203818412735&amp;postID=8741632844014358768' title='13 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/8741632844014358768'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/8741632844014358768'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/2008/07/sin-death-and-original-conditions.html' title='Sin, Death and Original Conditions'/><author><name>Kevin Corcoran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17422789329481787215</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_UIcUp4yfmZw/SdzPy_tbHJI/AAAAAAAAAEY/uGtJ6uwPXhs/S220/dad+2+at+Birds+Nest_1.JPG'/></author><thr:total>13</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1054707203818412735.post-3587047601652328903</id><published>2008-07-26T14:00:00.004-04:00</published><updated>2008-07-26T14:00:01.612-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Relationality'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='emodiment'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='chrisitian materialism'/><title type='text'>All is Quiet</title><content type='html'>Today I leave for Innsbruck, Austria for a week.  I'll be delivering a paper at the  &lt;a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:URi2Vv3i3hQJ:www.uibk.ac.at/philtheol/veranstaltung/plakat.pdf+university+innsbruck,+conference,+resurrection&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;ct=clnk&amp;amp;cd=1&amp;amp;gl=us"&gt;How Do We Survive Our Death: Personal Identity and Resurrection&lt;/a&gt; international conference.  Here's what I have to look forward to greeting me Sunday morning, as I pull into Innsbruck:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object height="344" width="425"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/rBAt_-Oaubc&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;fs=1"&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/rBAt_-Oaubc&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" height="344" width="425"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My contribution to the conference, a paper titled &lt;em&gt;Constitution, Resurrection and Relationality&lt;/em&gt;, presents the Constitution View of human persons, which I've been talking about for the past ten years, and most recently in &lt;a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Rethinking-Human-Nature/Kevin-J-Corcoran/e/9780801027802"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Rethinking Human Nature&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;. In the paper I situate the view as a materialist alternative to dualist views, on the one hand, and reductionistic versions of materialism, on the other.  I then address a theological criticism of the view to the effect that my account of human personhood doesn't take the fundamentally relational nature of human persons seriously, and in fact contributes to &lt;em&gt;social isolation&lt;/em&gt; and a sort of &lt;em&gt;introspective atomism&lt;/em&gt;.  I show how relationality is actually &lt;em&gt;essential&lt;/em&gt; to human personhood &lt;em&gt;on the constitution view&lt;/em&gt; and I try to demonstrate that human persons are always--from the beginning of the Christian narrative to its very end--&lt;em&gt;persons-in-relation&lt;/em&gt;.  So relationality  is not just &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;compatible&lt;/span&gt; with the Constitution View, and not simply congenial to it, it is in important respects &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;essential&lt;/span&gt; to the view.  I also sugest that if we are to survive death, either in the sense of immediate survival or &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;resurrection from the dead&lt;/span&gt;, then these very bodies must survive or be raised.  If you're interested, the paper will appear along with the other papers being presented (including papers by Dean Zimmerman, Hud Hudson, Eric Olson and Stephen Davis--the rest of the U.S. contingent) in a forthcoming volume on the same topic.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;All of that to say--things will be a little quieter than usual around H-SAB over the next week.   I do aim however to queue up a post to appear while I'm gone, and I hope you find it interesting and have some thoughts on the subject it addresses.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1054707203818412735-3587047601652328903?l=holyskinandbone.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/feeds/3587047601652328903/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1054707203818412735&amp;postID=3587047601652328903' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/3587047601652328903'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/3587047601652328903'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/2008/07/all-is-quiet.html' title='All is Quiet'/><author><name>Kevin Corcoran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17422789329481787215</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_UIcUp4yfmZw/SdzPy_tbHJI/AAAAAAAAAEY/uGtJ6uwPXhs/S220/dad+2+at+Birds+Nest_1.JPG'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1054707203818412735.post-1503928531834426388</id><published>2008-07-21T21:34:00.004-04:00</published><updated>2008-07-21T22:02:36.584-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='handicaps'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='human flourishing'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='autism'/><title type='text'>What Does Human Flourishing Look Like: Part II</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;This is a follow-up to the previous post.  The video below is eminently relevant to that post, and I would be interested in your thoughts concerning the video, as they relate to that post.  Be sure to watch this all the way through to the end.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object height="344" width="425"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/JnylM1hI2jc&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;fs=1"&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/JnylM1hI2jc&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" height="344" width="425"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1054707203818412735-1503928531834426388?l=holyskinandbone.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/feeds/1503928531834426388/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1054707203818412735&amp;postID=1503928531834426388' title='5 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/1503928531834426388'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/1503928531834426388'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/2008/07/what-does-human-flourishing-look-like_21.html' title='What Does Human Flourishing Look Like: Part II'/><author><name>Kevin Corcoran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17422789329481787215</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_UIcUp4yfmZw/SdzPy_tbHJI/AAAAAAAAAEY/uGtJ6uwPXhs/S220/dad+2+at+Birds+Nest_1.JPG'/></author><thr:total>5</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1054707203818412735.post-2350495814528702487</id><published>2008-07-21T03:00:00.003-04:00</published><updated>2008-07-21T03:00:07.961-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Heaven'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='handicaps'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='human flourishing'/><title type='text'>What Does Human Flourishing Look Like in the New Jerusalem?</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;I have always believed that in the New Jerusalem or the New Earth, human beings will realize the end for which they were created.  I still do.  I have believed that in that consummated kingdom, there will be healing and wholeness, that crooked spines will be made straight, that the lame will walk and the blind see.  I have believed that anything that impoverishes human beings--mentally, physically, spiritually--will impoverish no more.  That there and then all will be made well, and that human beings and all of creation will flourish. I still believe this.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But what, exactly, counts as flourishing and what as impoverishment?  Will we all have the same IQ in heaven, or will there be a range such that anyone within that range is flourishing?  Will we all have 20-20 vision?  But what about those like my brother whose vision is 10-15?  Is that flourishing and 20-20 not? Again, will there be a range and a threshold such that everyone will be above the threshold but some higher than others?  Suppose someone is born color-blind.  Is that an impoverishment? Or suppose someone is mentally handicapped.  Will their being made well mean that in the New Jerusalem they will be...well...like me?  Am I the standard of flourishing?  Are you?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This subject came up a couple of weeks ago at our subversive little group &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;In Vino Theologica&lt;/span&gt; (in wine there is theology).  One of our new members asked about one of their children who has special needs. (I'm not certain what her diagnosis actually is.)  The idea that this member was struggling with was that perhaps what we have labeled a &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;defect&lt;/span&gt; or &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;ab-normal&lt;/span&gt; may be part and parcel to who their daughter is.  Why think that what we have labeled a &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;defect&lt;/span&gt; actually is?  Maybe in the consummated kingdom there are ways that we will be more like her than her like us.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What do you think?  What does human flourishing look like?  Granted that all that impoverishes will be no more in the New Jerusalem, how do we tell what truly impoverishes?  Will all that we label "handicaps" or "defects" be done away with or is it possible that in some cases we've mislabeled?  And how can we tell?  Here and now?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1054707203818412735-2350495814528702487?l=holyskinandbone.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/feeds/2350495814528702487/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1054707203818412735&amp;postID=2350495814528702487' title='8 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/2350495814528702487'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/2350495814528702487'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/2008/07/what-does-human-flourishing-look-like.html' title='What Does Human Flourishing Look Like in the New Jerusalem?'/><author><name>Kevin Corcoran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17422789329481787215</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_UIcUp4yfmZw/SdzPy_tbHJI/AAAAAAAAAEY/uGtJ6uwPXhs/S220/dad+2+at+Birds+Nest_1.JPG'/></author><thr:total>8</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1054707203818412735.post-8122449015075163742</id><published>2008-07-16T07:22:00.003-04:00</published><updated>2008-07-16T09:42:42.403-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='ethics'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='animal rights'/><title type='text'>Monkey See Monkey Do</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;Spain has recently passed legislation granting &lt;a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article4220884.ece"&gt;legal rights to apes&lt;/a&gt;.  Animal rights activists in Austria are taking legal action to have a chimp named Matthew declared a person. They have as yet been unsuccessful but are taking their case to the &lt;a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/05/21/europe/EU-GEN-Austria-Chimp-Challenge.php"&gt;European Court of Human Rights&lt;/a&gt; in the hope of prevailing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Like the issues of gay rights and abortion rights, the rhetoric that generally attends 'discussion' of so-called "animal rights" can tend to produce copious amounts of heat and very little light.  On the one side are the animal rights activists who sometimes say and do things that strike us as mad, or just plain silly.  To cite just two example, there is Matthew's supporters in Austria who contend that everyone has a right to a fair trial, even chimps.  And of course the notoriously zany Leona Helmsley who, upon her death, left her dog some 12 million dollars and directed that that her vast estate (estimated in the billions of dollars) be used to care for dogs.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On the other side are the opponents of animal rights, some of whom are Christians, of course.  They argue that God gave us 'dominion' over the animals, and that, I take it, is somehow supposed to mean that we can treat non-human animals anyway we like, thank you very much.  There is also the argument that if we grant (say) chimps rights what's to prevent us from extending rights to earth worms and gnats?  Moreover, extending rights to chimps, dogs, earth worms and gnats has the effect of diminishing the significance and value of peculiarly &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;human&lt;/span&gt; life.  Or so the argument goes.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In a NY Times Editorial a couple of days ago, &lt;a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/14/opinion/14mon4.html?pagewanted=all"&gt;Adam Cohen&lt;/a&gt; introduces a very sensible voice into the discussion.  Essentially, he suggests the reverse of this last charge.  He writes:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt; Critics object that recognizing rights for apes would diminish human beings. But it seems more likely that showing respect for apes would elevate humans at the same time. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;American law is becoming increasingly cruel. The Supreme Court recently ruled that states are not obliged to administer lethal injections in ways that avoid unnecessary risk that inmates will suffer great pain. If apes are given the right to humane treatment, it just might become harder to deny that same right to their human cousins. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;For what it's worth, here's what I think, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;as a Christian&lt;/span&gt;.  We human beings are of a piece with the rest of the natural world.  Indeed &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;we&lt;/span&gt; are animals, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;human&lt;/span&gt; animals. So that animals should enjoy a conscious life ought not to worry us since we ourselves enjoy a conscious life.  Conscious lives come on a continuum, of course.  The conscious life of gorillas, who seem to feel  emotions and to understand and utilize language to communicate with humans, is more complex than the mental life of a dog; but, dogs too seem obviously to enjoy a robust conscious life. At the far end of the contimuum are those animals that are also &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;persons&lt;/span&gt;, their conscious lives have a complexity sufficient for producing what I, following Lynne Baker, call a first-person perspective.  So far as we can tell, in the natural world a first-person perspective is had only by humans.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There are two issues relevant to the discussion of extending rights to non-human animals that I want to discuss very briefly.  First, I think Cohen is correct.  Our practices toward non-human animals are character-forming, they shape the kind of people we become.  Compassionate treatment of all living things, other things being equal, will tend to produce compassionate people.  Treat non-human animals with compassion and you are likely to treat humans compassionately too, other things being equal.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Second, is extending rights to non-human individuals really that crazy of an idea?  We extend rights of various sorts already to collectives such as corporations and groups.  And rights, like conscious lives, come on a continuum.  The sorts of rights that non-human animals may have coming to them in virtue of being created by God will be different than the sorts of rights persons have in virtue of being created in the image of God.  Granted, there are difficult issues in the neighborhood; but, really, is the very idea of extending a right to an existence free of torture and exploitation to a non-human animal with a sufficiently well developed central nervous system that is capable of experiencing pleasure and pain really that crazy?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1054707203818412735-8122449015075163742?l=holyskinandbone.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/feeds/8122449015075163742/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1054707203818412735&amp;postID=8122449015075163742' title='11 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/8122449015075163742'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/8122449015075163742'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/2008/07/monkey-see-monkey-do.html' title='Monkey See Monkey Do'/><author><name>Kevin Corcoran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17422789329481787215</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_UIcUp4yfmZw/SdzPy_tbHJI/AAAAAAAAAEY/uGtJ6uwPXhs/S220/dad+2+at+Birds+Nest_1.JPG'/></author><thr:total>11</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1054707203818412735.post-1667613096195058598</id><published>2008-07-13T10:06:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2008-07-13T10:06:01.012-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Liturgy'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='consumerism'/><title type='text'>Wor(l)d and Sacrament</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;In this morning's NY Times there is a terrific article in the business section titled &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/13/business/13habit.html?th&amp;amp;emc=th"&gt;Warning: Habits May be Good For You&lt;/a&gt;.  &lt;/span&gt;(You'll need a subscription--which is free--to be able to view the article.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What the article does is essentially express what many of us&lt;br /&gt;concerned with church and culture have been saying for a long time, namely, that the world, like the church, is in the business of &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;formation&lt;/span&gt;, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;spiritual&lt;/span&gt; formation.  And when you're in the business of spiritual formation, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;liturgy&lt;/span&gt; and &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;sacrament--&lt;/span&gt;i.e., concrete practices&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;--&lt;/span&gt; are two very powerful means of  creating, cultivating and cementing  desired dispositions or characters.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the church, it is virtues or the fruit of the spirit that we aim to form within us by cultivating various sorts of practices or disciplines.  In the world, where the bottom economic line is the measure of success, it is an insatiable appetite for consumables that the prophets and priests wish to form within us.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;For most of our history, we’ve sold newer and better products for habits that already existed,” said Dr. Berning, the P.&amp;amp; G. psychologist. “But about a decade ago, we realized we needed to create new products. So we began thinking about how to create habits for products that had never existed before.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;This is a fascinating article. It tells the story, a good story, of an anthropologist with a desire to end the unnecessary spread of disease (especially in children) by getting people in certain parts of the world to wash their hands with soap.  In Ghana, for example, they found that most homes have soap, but that only 4% of people used it after toilet use.  After many unsuccessful educational campaigns to change the sanitary practices of the people in Ghana, the anthropologist turned to the prophets of our culture, multinational corporations, together with their priests, i.e., social psychologists and the advertising industry who consult them.  The goal?  To produce in the Ghana people an emotion or feeling (in this case the emotion of &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;disgust&lt;/span&gt;), and then move them to cultivate a practice--&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;handwashing&lt;/span&gt;--that would address the emotion and, in so doing, contribute enormously to ending or at least significantly diminishing the spread of certain diseases.  And guess what? It's working.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Advertising is ubiquitous in our consumer culture.  As Christ-followers, we are not immune to it or its effects. It could be argued in fact that the liturgy and sacraments of our consumer culture have more impact on our spiritual formation than the liturgy and sacraments of our churches.  (Of course, part of the explanation of this fact, if it is a fact, might just be that most evangelical churches have abdicated the practice of meaningful liturgy and sacraments to our culture.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In any case, we ought not fool ourselves.  The life of consumption is, at bottom, a spiritual quest.  It emerges out of the same restlessness and longing that are part of our created nature, and that drive us toward others, and God. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Consuming may be a misguided quest, but it is a spiritual quest all the same.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My question is this:  how can we, the church, be the counter-cultural community of Jesus that we are called to be &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;(a community primarily of formation)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt; in a culture whose sacraments and liturgy are more formative &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;for us&lt;/span&gt; than the very society to which we claim primary allegiance?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1054707203818412735-1667613096195058598?l=holyskinandbone.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/feeds/1667613096195058598/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1054707203818412735&amp;postID=1667613096195058598' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/1667613096195058598'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/1667613096195058598'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/2008/07/world-and-sacrament.html' title='Wor(l)d and Sacrament'/><author><name>Kevin Corcoran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17422789329481787215</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_UIcUp4yfmZw/SdzPy_tbHJI/AAAAAAAAAEY/uGtJ6uwPXhs/S220/dad+2+at+Birds+Nest_1.JPG'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1054707203818412735.post-381625387184901523</id><published>2008-07-06T11:10:00.008-04:00</published><updated>2008-07-21T11:32:00.374-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='politics'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='abortion'/><title type='text'>Obama and Abortion</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;This past Tuesday &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Relevant Magazine&lt;/span&gt; published an &lt;a href="http://www.relevantmagazine.com/life_article.php?id=7591"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;interview with Obama&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.  In that interview Obama is asked about his stance on abortion, specifically his stance on third-trimester and so-called partial-birth abortions.  Here's how Obama replies:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" class="featureMAINTEXT"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="featureMAINTEXT"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;I have repeatedly said that I think it’s entirely appropriate for states to restrict or even prohibit late-term abortions as long as there is a strict, well-defined exception for the health of the mother. Now, I don’t think that “mental distress” qualifies as the health of the mother. I think it has to be a serious physical issue that arises in pregnancy, where there are real, significant problems to the mother carrying that child to term. Otherwise, as long as there is such a medical exception in place, I think we can prohibit late-term abortions. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" class="featureMAINTEXT"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;Here is one response to Obama's answer in the Relevant Magazine interview, by &lt;a href="http://blogs.abcnews.com/legalities/2008/07/obama-sounding.html"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;Jan Crawford Greenberg:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;...there's no mistaking that Obama says he no longer will support what's long been a cornerstone of the abortion rights debate: The Court's insistence that laws banning abortions after the fetus is viable (now about 22 weeks) contain an exception to allow doctors to perform them if necessary to protect a pregnant woman's mental health.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" class="featureMAINTEXT"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Others, in comments throughout the blogosphere, are pointing the finger and saying, "there, you see; he started out left of center and now has not only shifted center, but has blown right past center on his way to the right."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A couple of thoughts.  First, the binary opposition of right and left and the impulse or drive to pigeon hole and demand absolute loyalty to one "side" is as much a proclivity of the "left" as it is the "right".  On this issue, Obama is not flip-flopping or threatening to take away what is now a woman's "right" to choose an abortion.  And he's not opposing the Court's insistence that laws restricting late-term abortions include an exception to protect a woman's mental health.   He's simply saying that  states can restrict or prohibit late term abortions &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;so long as&lt;/span&gt; there is an exception for the health of the mother and that mental &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;distress&lt;/span&gt; does not qualify as threatening the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;health&lt;/span&gt; of the mother.  Surely there is a distinction between mental "distress" and mental "illness" or "disease" where a pregnancy in the context of the latter, we might imagine, would qualify as threatening the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;health&lt;/span&gt; of the mother.  If mental &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;distress&lt;/span&gt; was sufficient for ending a pregnancy the exception might have the effect of eliminating the very rule for which it is an exception.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The problem, of course, is that nuance and distinction are not the stuff of mainstream america or the media that creates it.  Ms. Crawford is a part of the media that creates mainstream american culture.  I fear that she, and those like her, are once again making political mountains out of moral mole hills.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In any case, I suspect there are increasing numbers of people who are tired of drawing lines in the sand, tired of demanding that everyone who champions life agree with them on &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;every&lt;/span&gt; aspect of &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;every&lt;/span&gt; issue.  And let's be honest.  Roe v. Wade did not create abortions.  Abortions existed LOOOOOONG before Roe v. Wade.  On one plausible reading, what Roe v. Wade made legal was the performing of abortions by trained medical doctors.  It essentially said to women, "as full and equal citizens, you deserve better; you have a right to an abortion that is safe."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thoughts?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" class="featureMAINTEXT"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" class="featureMAINTEXT"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" class="featureMAINTEXT"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1054707203818412735-381625387184901523?l=holyskinandbone.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/feeds/381625387184901523/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1054707203818412735&amp;postID=381625387184901523' title='5 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/381625387184901523'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/381625387184901523'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/2008/07/obama-and-abortion.html' title='Obama and Abortion'/><author><name>Kevin Corcoran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17422789329481787215</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_UIcUp4yfmZw/SdzPy_tbHJI/AAAAAAAAAEY/uGtJ6uwPXhs/S220/dad+2+at+Birds+Nest_1.JPG'/></author><thr:total>5</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1054707203818412735.post-5842010838135230501</id><published>2008-06-13T10:45:00.010-04:00</published><updated>2008-06-13T11:06:31.738-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='pop culture'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='poetry'/><title type='text'>Hopkins vs. Hewson?</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;Man's spirit will be flesh-bound when found at best&lt;br /&gt;But uncumbered: meadow-down is not distressed&lt;br /&gt;For a rainbow footing it nor he for his bones risen.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Those are the closing lines of one of my favorite poems by Gerard Manley Hopkins,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt; The Caged Skylark.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;I love Hopkins' poetry.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Glory be to God for dappled things-&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;For skies of couple-colour as a brinded cow;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;For rose-moles in all stipple upon trout that swim...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;And then, from the same poem, perhaps my favorite lines in all of poetry:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;All things counter, original, spare, strange;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Whatever is fickle, freckled (who knows how?)&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;With swift, slow; sweet, sour; adazzle, dim;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;He fathers-forth whose beauty is past change:&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Praise him.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;Those lines from&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt; Pied Beauty.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;There's another poet I'm quite fond of too.  Here are some of my favorie lines from his works.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-family:verdana;font-size:130%;"  &gt;See the world in green and blue&lt;br /&gt;See China right in front of you&lt;br /&gt;See the canyons broken by cloud&lt;br /&gt;See the tuna fleets clearing the sea out&lt;br /&gt;See the Bedouin fires at night&lt;br /&gt;See the oil fields at first light&lt;br /&gt;And see the bird with a leaf in her mouth&lt;br /&gt;After the flood all the colors came out&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It was a beautiful day&lt;br /&gt;Don't let it get away&lt;br /&gt;Beautiful day&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:verdana;font-size:130%;"  &gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;What you don't have you don't need it now &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;What you don't know you can feel it somehow &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;What you don't have you don't need it now &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Don't need it now &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Was a beautiful day&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yes, those are the words to &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Beautiful Day&lt;/span&gt; penned by none other than Bono (aka Paul Hewson).  Here are a few more pearls:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-family:verdana;font-size:130%;"  &gt;Grace&lt;br /&gt;She takes the blame&lt;br /&gt;She covers the shame&lt;br /&gt;Removes the stain&lt;br /&gt;It could be her name&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Grace&lt;br /&gt;It's a name for a girl&lt;br /&gt;It's also a thought that changed the world&lt;br /&gt;And when she walks on the street&lt;br /&gt;You can hear the strings&lt;br /&gt;Grace finds goodness in everything&lt;br /&gt;...&lt;br /&gt;What once was hurt&lt;br /&gt;What once was friction&lt;br /&gt;What left a mark&lt;br /&gt;No longer stings&lt;br /&gt;Because grace makes beauty&lt;br /&gt;Out of ugly things&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:verdana;font-size:130%;"  &gt;If you're interested in art and culture I want to recommend an online magazine that I learned about this year called &lt;a href="http://www.catapultmagazine.com/"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;Catapult&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.  I learned about it because a friend of mine, who is a terrific writer, had an essay of hers about &lt;a href="http://www.catapultmagazine.com/keeping-house/article/the-sacrament-of-laundry"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;the sacrament of laundry&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; published there.   They've just published a brief exchange between my colleague Jamie Smith and myself concerning &lt;a href="http://www.catapultmagazine.com/the-artist-and-the-toothpaste/article/dumbing-down-discernment"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;dumbing down culture&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.  This discussion was originally published in a student led publication at Calvin College where both Jamie and I teach in the philosophy department.  Jamie worries over the loss of high culture among our students (and probably all twenty-somethings) and laments the fact that popular culture is "revelationally thin."   I, on the other hand, reply to Jamie and defend the depth and substance of both popular culture and  our students.  I also confess there my low tolerance for arrogant academics. You be the judge as to who wins the argument about culture.  And then, if you want, come back here and share your thoughts.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-family:verdana;font-size:130%;"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-family:verdana;font-size:130%;"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-family:verdana;" &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1054707203818412735-5842010838135230501?l=holyskinandbone.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/feeds/5842010838135230501/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1054707203818412735&amp;postID=5842010838135230501' title='5 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/5842010838135230501'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/5842010838135230501'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/2008/06/hopkins-vs-hewson.html' title='Hopkins vs. Hewson?'/><author><name>Kevin Corcoran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17422789329481787215</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_UIcUp4yfmZw/SdzPy_tbHJI/AAAAAAAAAEY/uGtJ6uwPXhs/S220/dad+2+at+Birds+Nest_1.JPG'/></author><thr:total>5</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1054707203818412735.post-7793307678804066326</id><published>2008-06-09T15:04:00.007-04:00</published><updated>2008-06-09T19:43:14.131-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='humor'/><title type='text'>Breaking News: Stonehenge Mystery Solved</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;It's been a long time coming, but the secret of Stonehenge is finally revealed by National Geographic.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;object width="320" height="266" class="BLOG_video_class" id="BLOG_video-575dfee474c63fda" classid="clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000" codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=6,0,40,0"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/get_player"&gt;&lt;param name="bgcolor" value="#FFFFFF"&gt;&lt;param name="allowfullscreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="flashvars" value="flvurl=http://v19.nonxt6.googlevideo.com/videoplayback?id%3D575dfee474c63fda%26itag%3D5%26app%3Dblogger%26ip%3D0.0.0.0%26ipbits%3D0%26expire%3D1330310144%26sparams%3Did,itag,ip,ipbits,expire%26signature%3D6C899457FA08160469DD76723A3C65FD776ED971.20E2F9B4F85A2F30ABED300972CCDD74948CE269%26key%3Dck1&amp;amp;iurl=http://video.google.com/ThumbnailServer2?app%3Dblogger%26contentid%3D575dfee474c63fda%26offsetms%3D5000%26itag%3Dw160%26sigh%3DbiL-kipna-P3CLd3jo8FDH7PDqY&amp;amp;autoplay=0&amp;amp;ps=blogger"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/get_player" type="application/x-shockwave-flash"width="320" height="266" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"flashvars="flvurl=http://v19.nonxt6.googlevideo.com/videoplayback?id%3D575dfee474c63fda%26itag%3D5%26app%3Dblogger%26ip%3D0.0.0.0%26ipbits%3D0%26expire%3D1330310144%26sparams%3Did,itag,ip,ipbits,expire%26signature%3D6C899457FA08160469DD76723A3C65FD776ED971.20E2F9B4F85A2F30ABED300972CCDD74948CE269%26key%3Dck1&amp;iurl=http://video.google.com/ThumbnailServer2?app%3Dblogger%26contentid%3D575dfee474c63fda%26offsetms%3D5000%26itag%3Dw160%26sigh%3DbiL-kipna-P3CLd3jo8FDH7PDqY&amp;autoplay=0&amp;ps=blogger"allowFullScreen="true" /&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;My friend Steve, a biologist, will often say "it would be great if we could run an experiment" on this that or another interesting claim or theory.  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The more interlocutors, Tony suggests, the more likely we are to come to a &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;better&lt;/span&gt; interpretation, and the closer to truth.  (That's right--&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;truth&lt;/span&gt;.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now some who listen in on conversations that take place here, whose identities lay safely hidden behind online handles that provide a safe haven from which to launch vitriol and self-righteousness, which shower down like dirty bombs causing injury to the name of Jesus and contributing to the uglification of the Church, some such as these I say, may think:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;But, c'mon; multiplying stupidity will never add up to intelligence. Hundreds of inept interpreters sitting around on couches, sipping lattes from s-bux and pontificating on blogs and in books about social justice after they just drove their hummer the 1.5 miles to the coffee shop is no more likely to get you closer to the truth or to a better interpretation than two such imbeciles chattering away to each other on facebook.&lt;/span&gt;”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It’s like the C student who comes to me and asks if he could write a couple of extra papers to raise his grade.  How do you tell him, without crushing his spirit, that more &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;average&lt;/span&gt; work will not eventuate in an &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;above&lt;/span&gt; average grade?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I get the point of the naysayers (although I don’t think I’ll ever get the ad hominems and inflammatory rhetoric such folk characteristically employ).  But here’s the difference between what Tony’s saying and my imaginary student.  Emergent Christians &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;speak&lt;/span&gt; and &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;listen&lt;/span&gt;.  And they are forever extending the boundaries of conversation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It’s not unlike Wikipedia.  While I advise my students that consulting Wikipedia when writing a philosophy paper is as useless as consulting a dictionary to discover the meaning of words when writing such a paper, there is a dynamic at work in the writing of Wikipedia that is absent in the case of my student.  And the difference is network.  Wikipedia is open to all via the world wide web and experts with access generally do not allow misinformation to last very long on Wikipedia before it is revised and corrected.  Likewise in the conversations that animate emerging.  Hearing the voices and stories of others can have the effect of enlarging your world and sometimes making you think “you know, I’ve never quite thought about it that way before.  That does seem a more faithful reading than mine, now that I think about it.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I’m going to keep this short and invite others to throw in.  But let me pick up on just one more aspect of this chapter—&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;beauty&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Tony tells a story of a young boy who after hearing a lecture and discussion on the (im)plausibility of the Virgin birth went up to the lecturer and declared that he himself believes in the Virgin birth.  The speaker asks him why and he says “&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Because it’s too beautiful not to be true&lt;/span&gt;” (p.160).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I’ve said this many times on this blog, but it bears repeating.  If I were asked why I believe in the Christian story, why I believe in a Creator God who pursues his fallen and perverted creation with the urgent love of a mother or father, I think I’d be tempted to answer as the boy.  &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;I really can’t help but believe it&lt;/span&gt;.  I think when you really, truly sense that you are a “&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;crooked soul trying to stay up straight&lt;/span&gt;”, when you sense that you are sick and in need of healing, when you sense that you don’t have it all together and stand in desperate need of love and forgiveness, when you recognize that both you and the world you live in are broken and you feel deep down in your bones that a better world and a better you are possible, then the Christian story overwhelms you with its beauty.  There’s a fittingness to it.  It fits your experience of yourself and the world.  &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;It’s too beautiful not to be true.&lt;/span&gt;  Messy? Yes.  But beautiful in its messiness.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What do you think about that?  What do you think about beauty or aesthetic qualities as indicators of truth?  Is it the case that in math and science we discard one theory in favor of another sometimes because the replacement theory is more elegant, more aesthetically beautiful than that which it's replacing?  Granted, the replacement theory is generally expected to have more explanatory power.  But is there nothing to the idea that elegance or beauty is truth indicative?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Well, that's enough for now.  I'll blog about the final chapter next time.  But let me say here that while there have been places in Tony's book where I’ve paused and thought “I don’t know about that” or “That seems a little self-indulgent to me” the major chords being struck in the book and in emergent are ones that resonate very deeply with me.  Very deeply indeed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1054707203818412735-5863263891157468495?l=holyskinandbone.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/feeds/5863263891157468495/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1054707203818412735&amp;postID=5863263891157468495' title='7 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/5863263891157468495'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/5863263891157468495'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/2008/06/tony-jone-and-new-christians.html' title='Tony Jones and The New Christians'/><author><name>Kevin Corcoran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17422789329481787215</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_UIcUp4yfmZw/SdzPy_tbHJI/AAAAAAAAAEY/uGtJ6uwPXhs/S220/dad+2+at+Birds+Nest_1.JPG'/></author><thr:total>7</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1054707203818412735.post-5454816352826288438</id><published>2008-06-05T07:13:00.004-04:00</published><updated>2008-06-05T08:28:10.925-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Where Things Are Headed at HSAB</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;Hello Strangers!  A spate of grading, followed by a roof tear-off and re-roofing job on my house kept me very busy (and sore) over the past couple weeks.  But, all that is behind me. Standing before me now, wide-eyed and inviting, is my friend summer.  And she is beautiful!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For the first time in four or five years I am NOT teaching a summer session. Instead, I will be focusing on three different writing projects.  One is a paper on human nature and life after death which will be delivered in Austria at the end of July as part of a &lt;a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://www.uibk.ac.at/philtheol/lsi-innsbruck/survive_conference/"&gt;conference&lt;/a&gt; jointly sponsored by the metanexus institute and the departments of philosophy and theology at the University of Innsbruck.  I'll be joining Dean Zimmerman, Eric Olson, Hud Hudson and Steve Davis as a plenary speaker.  What an incredible privilege to be on the same bill as these folks.  I'll be delivering a paper titled &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Constitution, Resurrection and Relationality&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The other two projects I'm working on may also be of interest to readers of this blog.  Both are books. One is a book I am editing and it includes chapters by Scot Mcknight, Jason Clark, Pete Rollins and myself.  I'll tell you more about it later.  The second book is one I started working on over a year ago and is currently laboring under the title &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Incurably Human&lt;/span&gt;.  This one is a combination of coffee house philosophy, theology and spiritual autobiography.  In it I puzzle over such things as suffering and evil, pluralism and tolerance, the Christian doctrine of hell, community and consumption, what it means to be moral, creation and evolution, what it means to be human, etc.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Summer has proven to be my most productive with respect to writing and research.  What that means for this blog is that I am very likely to post only two or three times per month.  I'd like to finish blogging my way through Tony Jones' &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The New Christians &lt;/span&gt;and follow that up with more topical posts.  So stay tuned!!!!!  I'll have another post on Tony's book before next week.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Looking forward to conversing with you again.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1054707203818412735-5454816352826288438?l=holyskinandbone.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/feeds/5454816352826288438/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1054707203818412735&amp;postID=5454816352826288438' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/5454816352826288438'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/5454816352826288438'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/2008/06/where-things-are-headed-at-hsab.html' title='Where Things Are Headed at HSAB'/><author><name>Kevin Corcoran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17422789329481787215</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_UIcUp4yfmZw/SdzPy_tbHJI/AAAAAAAAAEY/uGtJ6uwPXhs/S220/dad+2+at+Birds+Nest_1.JPG'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1054707203818412735.post-8884351425029406575</id><published>2008-05-17T15:34:00.002-04:00</published><updated>2008-05-17T15:41:10.434-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Silence</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: verdana;"&gt;The youth have been corrupted. The piper has been paid.  It's now judgment day.  Last week was spent catching up on pre-exam, paper grading and administering final exams.  This week coming I will be knee deep in grading exams and final papers.  That means things will stay pretty quiet in these parts.  I'd say to expect a new post some time during the middle of week after next (27th/28th). &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;pax vobiscum,&lt;br /&gt;Kevin&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1054707203818412735-8884351425029406575?l=holyskinandbone.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/feeds/8884351425029406575/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1054707203818412735&amp;postID=8884351425029406575' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/8884351425029406575'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/8884351425029406575'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/2008/05/silence.html' title='Silence'/><author><name>Kevin Corcoran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17422789329481787215</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_UIcUp4yfmZw/SdzPy_tbHJI/AAAAAAAAAEY/uGtJ6uwPXhs/S220/dad+2+at+Birds+Nest_1.JPG'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1054707203818412735.post-1824111830709677492</id><published>2008-05-08T07:15:00.006-04:00</published><updated>2008-05-09T11:22:25.545-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='kingdom of god'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='caputo'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='emergent'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='emodiment'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='derrida'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='tony jones'/><title type='text'>The Kingdom of God: Ever Coming Never Arriving?</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;Tony J got me thinking. He got me thinking about God's kingdom, and the way in which Derrida and Caputo represent it as a perpetual deferral. Tony finds the D&amp;amp;C conception alluring and attractive. I suspect many in the emerging movement do. I myself don't find it appealing. I want to know what others think. And I want to wonder aloud about whether it might not actually be something else that Tony, et. al. find appealing in the D&amp;amp;C model, something that they misidentify as the doctrine of eternal deferral.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I make no pretense at all to being a Derrida scholar. So, I am open to correction in what I'm about to say, and I would invite others more knowledgeable than I to weigh in here and to offer correction where correction is needed. Let me lay out what I understand to be the gist of the D&amp;amp;C model of the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;impossibility&lt;/span&gt; and &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;undeconstructibility&lt;/span&gt; of the kingdom, and say why, as a Christian, I think we ought to reject it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As I understand it, the kingdom of God or Justice or The Wholly Other or Messiah is &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;never&lt;/span&gt; fully present on the D&amp;amp;C model but always a reality &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;yet to come&lt;/span&gt;, always a reality &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;beyond&lt;/span&gt;, a &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;future&lt;/span&gt;, a &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;hope&lt;/span&gt;, an &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;aspiration&lt;/span&gt;.  Indeed, God is not even to be thought of as a being, an individual, but rather as an uncontainable, unconditional, undeconstructible &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Event&lt;/span&gt; that is, as some who talk about such things put it, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;"astir"&lt;/span&gt; or &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;"harbored"&lt;/span&gt; in the name of "God".&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Why is the kingdom &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;eternally&lt;/span&gt; deferred?  Because words and worldly structures are finite, contingent, particular, limited, deconstructible and thus inhospitable abodes for the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Wholly&lt;/span&gt; Other and the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;un-&lt;/span&gt;deconstructible.  At best what we are ever presented with are &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;"traces"&lt;/span&gt; of the Event that is God, and these traces call us &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;beyond&lt;/span&gt; and invite us into a transformed way of being in the world.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As I said, I'm certainly open to correction here as I am admittedly outside my own areas of professional expertise.  But, to the extent that I've got Derrida/Caputo right, I'm inclined to think that this &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;discarnational&lt;/span&gt; model of the kingdom is utterly foreign to the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;incarnational &lt;/span&gt;kingdom of Christian faith.  Whereas the D&amp;amp;C "gospel" regards the contingent, particular and deconstructible with suspicion and as inhospitable to the Wholly Other/Messiah/Kingdom or Justice, the God of Christian faith &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;dwells within&lt;/span&gt;, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;inhabits&lt;/span&gt;, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;incarnates&lt;/span&gt; himself precisely &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;in&lt;/span&gt; the particular, deconstructible and contingent.  And far from "traces" of God within the particular, deconstructible and contingent the gospel suggests a &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;fullness&lt;/span&gt; of presence.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Moreover, while the idea of a transformative event lies at the very heart of the gospel, the Trinitarian God of Christian theism is not himself an &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Event&lt;/span&gt;, but a &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;God-in-three-persons&lt;/span&gt;.  Events don't have intentions, aims, loves, etc.  I can't enter into a reciprocated relationship of love with an event.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What, then, might Tony and others find so appealing in the D&amp;amp;C idea of eternal deferral?   I'd like to think that it's not so much the eternal deferral and impossibility &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;of the kingdom&lt;/span&gt; that they find so attractive, as that  hardly strikes me as&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;good news. That's about as "good" as the news delivered up in Waiting for Godot.  At least in the case of the latter the two main characters &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;believe&lt;/span&gt; Godot is coming, though he never arrives. Not so in the D&amp;amp;C story where God's coming is &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;impossible&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Perhaps what TJ and others find appealing is the perpetual deferral &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;of understanding&lt;/span&gt;, the realization that no matter what we come to understand of God and of his justice it is &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;inexhaustible&lt;/span&gt;; there is always more.  I wonder if it's not the idea that we ought never to be satisfied or settled with a particular theology or political arrangement, for example, but always questing, always reaching and searching.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In a way, insofar as the emerging movement can be viewed as a development within evangelical protestantism, it is easier for me to see how some of Derrida's ideas are consonant with emergent sensibilities than it is for me to understand how Caputo, a Catholic, would be attracted to such discarnate, disembodied, otherworldly notions. Catholicism's emphasis on the Eucharist, a place where Christ is &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;really present&lt;/span&gt; (one almost wants to say &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;re-incarnated&lt;/span&gt;) would seem to more easily prevent one from flights of disembodiment than the thin "commemorative" understanding of the Eucharist in low-church protestant denominations and non-denominations.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In any case, what do you think?  Have I misrepresented the D&amp;amp;C model? If not, do you find the notion of an eternal deferral of the kingdom appealing?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1054707203818412735-1824111830709677492?l=holyskinandbone.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/feeds/1824111830709677492/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1054707203818412735&amp;postID=1824111830709677492' title='14 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/1824111830709677492'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/1824111830709677492'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/2008/05/kingdom-of-god-ever-coming-never_08.html' title='The Kingdom of God: Ever Coming Never Arriving?'/><author><name>Kevin Corcoran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17422789329481787215</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_UIcUp4yfmZw/SdzPy_tbHJI/AAAAAAAAAEY/uGtJ6uwPXhs/S220/dad+2+at+Birds+Nest_1.JPG'/></author><thr:total>14</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1054707203818412735.post-4286325286142514293</id><published>2008-05-03T11:25:00.007-04:00</published><updated>2008-05-03T11:48:07.498-04:00</updated><title type='text'>In Reply to Mr. D and All Christians Who Sow Seeds of Division by Demagoguery</title><content type='html'>&lt;sup style="display: none;" class="ww"&gt;2&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;sup style="display: none;" class="ww"&gt;3&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;sup style="display: none;" class="ww"&gt;4&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;sup style="display: none;" class="ww"&gt;5&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;sup style="display: none;" class="ww"&gt;6&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;I therefore, the prisoner in the Lord, beg you to lead a life worthy of the calling to which you have been called, with all humility and gentleness, with patience, bearing with one another in love, making every effort to maintain the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace. There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to the one hope of your calling, one Lord, one faith, one baptism, one God and Father of all, who is above all and through all and in all.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;Ephesians 4.1-6&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1054707203818412735-4286325286142514293?l=holyskinandbone.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/feeds/4286325286142514293/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1054707203818412735&amp;postID=4286325286142514293' title='5 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/4286325286142514293'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/4286325286142514293'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/2008/05/in-reply-to-mr-d-and-all-christians-who.html' title='In Reply to Mr. D and All Christians Who Sow Seeds of Division by Demagoguery'/><author><name>Kevin Corcoran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17422789329481787215</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_UIcUp4yfmZw/SdzPy_tbHJI/AAAAAAAAAEY/uGtJ6uwPXhs/S220/dad+2+at+Birds+Nest_1.JPG'/></author><thr:total>5</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1054707203818412735.post-5940913878117565965</id><published>2008-05-01T01:00:00.011-04:00</published><updated>2008-05-01T08:00:37.973-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='emergent'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='tony jones'/><title type='text'>Theology Stupid: Humility and Relativism</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;This is a long, fun chapter (chapter 4) of &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The New Christians: Dispatches from the Emergent Frontier&lt;/span&gt;. And there's a lot we could talk about. After hitting a couple of the highlights, I'm going to focus on two charges leveled at emerging Christians and discussed by Tony in this chapter. The one charge is that emerging Christians lack conviction in their Christian beliefs, owing to their embrace of epistemic humility. The second charge is that emerging Christians are relativists.  Both charges, Tony responds, are false.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But up first, a couple of bottom-of-the-ninth, two out, two men on, game-saving diving catches and last-second, buzzer-beating three-point shots with a hand in the face.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Theology, Tony tells us, is what Augustine did in &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;City of God&lt;/span&gt;, Michelangelo sculpted in his &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Pieta&lt;/span&gt;, John Milton wrote in &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Paradise Lost&lt;/span&gt;, Peter Paul Rubens painted in &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The Allegory of Peace and War&lt;/span&gt;, Dostoyevsky wrote in the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The Brothers karamazov&lt;/span&gt; and Bono sings in "Mysterious Ways" (p.105).  Theology, in an important sense, is any human activity that reveals what it is we believe to be the case about God, who we think God is and what we think God is up to in the world.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;In short, &lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;"human life is theology.  Virtually everything we do is inherently theological.  Almost every choice we make reflects what we think about God.  There's no escaping it"&lt;/span&gt; (p.106).  To which I say, Amen and amen.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And there's this:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;the emergent church movement is a counterreaction, a retrieval of the deep theological tradition of wrestling with the intellectual and spiritual  difficulties inherent in the Christian faith &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;(p. 109).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yes, there are spiritual difficulties inherent in the Christian faith.  Take something like the Nicene Creed or the Chalcedonian formulation of the two-natures of Christ, for example.  It is tempting to think that these formulations of Christian belief were the last words on matters of Christian belief and doctrine.  That would be a mistake, however.  What the creeds do is to establish parameters or fences, inside of which is the Christian faith and outside of which is not Christian faith.  But within those parameters spiritual difficulties remain.  We believe that God is a Trinity.  But just how to understand the Trinity is difficult business and open to exploration and a variety of acceptable interpretations.  Jesus was both human and divine.  But how to understand that is an open issue, and one as deeply mysterious as is the Trinity itself.  Christian formulae such as the creeds &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;circumscribe&lt;/span&gt; for sure, but they don't &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;eliminate&lt;/span&gt; mystery and they most assuredly leave room for a variety of views and understandings of the various truths they seek to express.  As one of Tony's friends says "to every answer there is a good question" (p.110).  Indeed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And to those emergent detractors who claim that folks like Tony are infatuated with novelty and disdain tradition, let me quote from the horse's mouth, where he says of theology that it is only:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;done in the aftermath of the multifarious theologies that have gone before...in conversation with two thousand years of Christian theology and four thousand years of Jewish theology before that &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;(113).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A couple of bloopers and then the main event: humility and relativism.&lt;br /&gt;At the very beginning of the chapter, Tony suggests that both the methods &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;and&lt;/span&gt; the message of Christianity "are bound to be reconceived over time" and he says that "if one changes the methods one will inevitably change the message (p.96).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Well, I dunno.  The message of Christianity, as I understand it, is essentially this: &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;that God was in Christ reconciling the world to himself.&lt;/span&gt; I know Tony won't like this, but that seems to me the Christian message &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;in a nutshell&lt;/span&gt;.  To human beings and a world broken and fragmented by sin, the Christian story comes as good news:  &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;God's response to sin and lovelessness is love and redemption&lt;/span&gt;. If that message should change, it would simply cease to be the Christian message. Now I agree with Tony that the gospel is always already enculturated.   And  I agree that to try and freeze any particular &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;articulation&lt;/span&gt; of the gospel, actually does an injustice to the gospel.  But &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;there is a gospel.&lt;/span&gt;  It has a particular content.  And if the content should change in such a way as to entail that God was &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;not&lt;/span&gt; in Christ reconciling the world to himself, or change in such a way as to entail that God did &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;not&lt;/span&gt; become incarnate in Christ, and did &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;not&lt;/span&gt; suffer, die and rise again to reverse the curse of sin and death, well, then, it is, in my view, no longer the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Christian&lt;/span&gt; message.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Granted, how &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;best&lt;/span&gt; to tell the story or show the story or live the story, all of that may change.  But &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;the story&lt;/span&gt;, should it change in its essentials, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;it &lt;/span&gt;doesn't become something else.  &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;It&lt;/span&gt; simply ceases to exist and gets replaced with a different story, a non-Christian story.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Tony also says that God is a being whose activity is, by definition, not contingent.  And I'm not sure what he means by that.  It is, of course, a long standing belief that God's &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;existence&lt;/span&gt; is not contingent, that God exists &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;a se&lt;/span&gt; or in himself.  You and I and all created things, by conrast, are &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;contingent&lt;/span&gt; beings.  God, it has long been believed, is not a contingent being but a necessary and utterly independent being.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I bring this up because it seems to me that at least some of God's activity is, indeed, contingent on the activity of humans and Tony says that the bible suggests otherwise.  I guess I don't see that.  Suppose God does not have knowledge of the future free actions of human beings. It would seem to me that if that's the case, then what God does in the future (if God should act in response) is at least partly dependent on what free actions human beings perform in the future.  God's getting angry at human beings before the flood, for example, was contingent or dependent on human beings having displeased him.  Had those living on the earth not displeased him, he would not have been displeased and sent the flood in response.  So, the biblical witness itself seems to point in the opposite direction than what Tony suggests, i.e., that at least some of the activity of God is contingent on the activity of humans.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;Okay, from page 115, Dispatch 11:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;Emergents believe that awareness of our relative position--to God, to one another and to history--breeds biblical humility, not relativistic apathy.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt;Conviction is one thing it seems to me emerging Christians have in spades.  They believe, and believe strongly, lots of things.  Apathy is not one of their trademarks.  Yet I have heard it said that emerging Christians lack conviction.  That seems false. And yet their convictions are tempered with humility.  The humility comes in when one realizes that one's forebears also believed, and believed strongly, lots of things, things we now believe &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;they were dead wrong about&lt;/span&gt;.  For example, the moral permissibility of slavery and the moral impermissibility of inter-racial marriage.  Emerging Christians, although they hold very strong convictions on lots of things, they realize that they are &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;finite&lt;/span&gt;, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;frail&lt;/span&gt; and deeply situated &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;creatures&lt;/span&gt; and, as a result, it might actually be &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;them&lt;/span&gt; that has blindspots.  So, they're more inclined to say, "look, this is how I see it and why.  How do you see you see it, and why?"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To go along with that, emerging Christians are also aware that cultural realities such as marriage and family did not drop down out of the sky fully worked out and unalterable.  They realize that such institutions &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;even within the church&lt;/span&gt; have been thought of differently at different times.  Even friendship--same-sex and cross-sex-- has been understood differently at different times in Christian history.  In fact, to read Saint Augustine and other of our theological forebears on friendship many today would be certain they were gay, for the language they use in correspondence witht each other and the language they use to describe their same-sex friendships sound borderline romantic to our ears.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is such talk as this that leads critics to charge emerging Christians with being &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;relativists&lt;/span&gt;.  And Tony's response is "well, we're all relativists" (p.117).  And he goes on to offer examples of how all of us work with biases, and how every English translation of the the ancient Jewish and Christian sacred manuscripts is biased.  And we, when we read the scriptures, we each of us employ what one might call a &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;canon within the canon&lt;/span&gt;.  In other words, some believe women cannot be pastors or teachers and believe that this is what the bible teaches.  Others believe the bible teaches that in Christ there is no more slave or free, Jew or Greek,  male or female.  The first allows one set of passages to serve as his or her controlling texts (his or her &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;canon within the canon&lt;/span&gt;) while the other allows other passages to serve as his or her controlling texts.  Both are working with biases when it comes to their understanding of what the bible teaches about women pastors and teachers.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now, my own view is that what Tony is talking about is not exactly what most people have in mind when they charge emergents with relativism.  Usually relativism is thought to have something to do with truth or morality.  The contrast to the relativist is usually thought to be the absolutist or objectivist.  So when someone charges the emerging Christians with being relativists, I take them to be saying that emerging Christian believe (say) that God was in Christ reconciling the world to himself, but only &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;relative&lt;/span&gt; to the Christian story.  The critics want to know, however, is it &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;true&lt;/span&gt; that God was in Christ reconciling the world to himself?  The charge is that the emerging Christian will say something like, "well, for the Christian it is, but not for the Hindu."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So when it comes to relativism, most people do not have in mind the problem of canons within the canon.  They have in mind &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;relativism&lt;/span&gt;.  Are homosexual unions &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;wrong&lt;/span&gt;?  Full stop. The moral relativist is likely to say, well, they're wrong perhaps &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;from a Christian perspective&lt;/span&gt;, but not from &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;all&lt;/span&gt; perspectives.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Are emerging Christians relativists? Certainly not all.  At least most (if not all) of the ones I know are &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;not&lt;/span&gt; relativists.  They think it's true that God was in Christ reconciling the world to himself.  Period.  Now they might go on to say something like, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;"But of course, I sometimes wonder if I've been duped.  I sometimes wonder if this story can really be true after all."&lt;/span&gt;  But that's perfectly consistent with their believing it's true.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And as for homosexual unions being wrong, an emerging Christian might says something like:  "Well, as I understand it homosexual unions are at cross-purposes with God's ultimate intentions for human sexuality and so they're morally wrong.   &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;But&lt;/span&gt; I also recognize that war is at cross-purposes with God's ultimately good intentions for human relations and so too divorce.  Now, why are we willing to say when it comes to war and divorce--which we believe to be at cross-purposes with God's ultimately good intentions for the world--that it is sometimes &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;morally permissible &lt;/span&gt;to engage in these activities?  And why aren't we willing to say that about homosexual unions?"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now let me add this: imagine that you find yourself in the following psychological predicament.  You believe (say) war or divorce is at cross-purposes with God's ultimately good intentions for the world, but you also believe that you have exhausted every conceivable avenue that might avoid going to war or getting a divorce, and you decide to engage in the war or get the divorce, fully recognizing that it is not the best &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;all things being equal &lt;/span&gt;decision, but is, to your lights, the best &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;all things considered&lt;/span&gt; decision.   And so you decide to embark on a path that is at cross-purposes with God's ultimately good intentions for the world.  And you think it is morally permissible to do so. &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;That&lt;/span&gt; would be a psychologically &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;hellish&lt;/span&gt; place to live.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In any case, many of us believe that war is at cross-purposes with God's ultimately good intentions for human relations and yet we believe that it is sometimes morally permissible to engage in war.  Why do we not think the same about homosexual unions?  That's the sort of question emerging Christians might ask and worry about.  And, so far as I can see, there's nothing relativistic about it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'll close this off with another quote from the book, p. 122:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;Like myriad Christians through the ages, emergents are attempting to...figure out where God is in the world, what God is up to, and how the biblical narrative jibes with our own 21st century lives.&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If I were to have written that sentence, I might have changed that last clause to this:  &lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;"...and how to fit our 21st century lives into the biblical narrative."&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;But Tony gets it.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1054707203818412735-5940913878117565965?l=holyskinandbone.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/feeds/5940913878117565965/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1054707203818412735&amp;postID=5940913878117565965' title='19 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/5940913878117565965'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/5940913878117565965'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/2008/05/theology-stupid-humility-and-relativism.html' title='Theology Stupid: Humility and Relativism'/><author><name>Kevin Corcoran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17422789329481787215</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_UIcUp4yfmZw/SdzPy_tbHJI/AAAAAAAAAEY/uGtJ6uwPXhs/S220/dad+2+at+Birds+Nest_1.JPG'/></author><thr:total>19</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1054707203818412735.post-996096764904897556</id><published>2008-04-27T12:30:00.007-04:00</published><updated>2008-04-28T07:03:12.180-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='emergent'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='disagreement'/><title type='text'>The Theology Stupid (chapter 4):  But Not Quite Yet</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;A post on chapter four of Tony's book is on its way.  But before we go there, I wanted to make an observation.  I discovered this past week that there are people out there in the blogosphere who don't just think emerging Christians are &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;wrong&lt;/span&gt; about this, that or the other thing, but think too that they are a bunch  of people with various sorts of character flaws.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;I for example have been identified as a slothful, sophmoric half-wit by some of emergent's critics.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;  Now, there's no doubt that emerging Christians have character flaws. We all do.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To see me taken to the mat (quite unfairly, I think) go &lt;a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://remonstrans.net/index.php/"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.  That link will take you to a blog of someone whose name we do not know and whose identity remains safely hidden behind the blog handle "dissidens".  Dissidens' prose is crisp and easy on the eye. He's a good writer. The problem (to my mind anyway; certainly not to his) is that he has no desire to listen, to try to understand or to engage in a discussion.  Well, actually, that wouldn't be a problem &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;if&lt;/span&gt; that was a place he came to &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;after&lt;/span&gt; an earnest attempt or two at engaging and listening.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here's a difference between what I hope can go on here (on this blog) and what (apparently) goes on over at his.  Here I hope there can be disagreement, even spirited disagreement, without impugning the character of someone who disagrees with you.  For example, I have voiced pointed disagreement with Pete Rollins and John Caputo and worried over some things Tony J has said.  So far as I know I have never engaged in &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;ad hominem&lt;/span&gt; attacks against anyone and neither Pete nor Tony has ever said to me with guerilla-like rhetorical flourishes &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;"What?  You disagree with me?  Well obviously you're an idiot then, because if you were an honest and sincere truth-seeker, you'd agree with me; since you don't agree with me, you're not just mistaken, but there's something wrong with you.&lt;/span&gt;"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Over at "dissidens" blog, it's pretty clear that since he and I don't see eye to eye about semantic plasticity or biblical interpretation, I'm an idiot or if not an idiot at least a half-wit. Apparently he doesn't like the way I used the English word "sexed" or the Latin word "secare" in a previous post.  Forget for the moment that he attributes claims to me that a close reading would reveal I didn't make, still it's obvious that we disagree about what words can mean and about how to interpret the scriptures.  (We do actually agree on how to spell &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;half-witted&lt;/span&gt;, but on typing my comment at his blog I apparently misspelled it only to discover that that was sufficient for showing that I was, in fact, a half-wit, as if there wasn't enough evidence already.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now, you'll recall from my previous post on &lt;a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/2008/04/pomo_footnote-stanley-fish-at-it-again_15.html"&gt;Stanley Fish&lt;/a&gt; that I am not immune to dishing out pointed criticism clothed in equally pointed and colorful rhetoric (minus the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;ad hominem&lt;/span&gt;).  And some commenters on this blog rightfully and respectfully pushed back. The tone from all interlocutors in the discussion that ensued struck me as civil and respectful even if the passions of many of us were not always packaged in tame words.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I thought perhaps dissidens might actually be interested in engagement, the kind I'd like to think goes on here when what goes on here is at its best. So, I asked him a couple of questions on &lt;a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://remonstrans.net/index.php/"&gt;his blog&lt;/a&gt;, which he published.  He answered those questions and in so doing made it quite clear that respectful engagement was not among his interests.  So I left him a curt and pointed reply to that effect.  He removed that comment, and has continued to add to the scorn.  That's fine.  It is very much in keeping with his handle &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;dissidens.  &lt;/span&gt;He apparently enjoys &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;sitting apart&lt;/span&gt; and &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;disagreeing &lt;/span&gt;from a distance and not from a position of engagement.  That's fine, too.  But in that case why invite comments?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Maybe it's because I've been in the academic world for a decade now that I've gotten used to spirited disagreement &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;sans&lt;/span&gt; the character assassination.  (How a half-wit like myself was ever allowed into the academy and into the society of analytic philosophy I can only guess remains an utter mystery to dissidens.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If given the choice (and I guess all of us are) between a fox-news style of "engagement" (replete with caricatures and sniper-fire) and the style of engagement we aim for here on this blog, I'll stick with this style.  It seems to me more productive, more fruitful and, quite frankly, more Christ-like.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1054707203818412735-996096764904897556?l=holyskinandbone.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/feeds/996096764904897556/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1054707203818412735&amp;postID=996096764904897556' title='27 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/996096764904897556'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/996096764904897556'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/2008/04/theology-stupid-chapter-4-but-not-quite.html' title='The Theology Stupid (chapter 4):  But Not Quite Yet'/><author><name>Kevin Corcoran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17422789329481787215</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_UIcUp4yfmZw/SdzPy_tbHJI/AAAAAAAAAEY/uGtJ6uwPXhs/S220/dad+2+at+Birds+Nest_1.JPG'/></author><thr:total>27</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1054707203818412735.post-4222545140521947653</id><published>2008-04-22T00:02:00.011-04:00</published><updated>2008-04-22T07:05:54.552-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='emergent'/><title type='text'>Emergent or emergent?  Do You Care?</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;Last week there was a bit of discussion around the blogosphere concerning the labels &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Emergent&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;and&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;emergent&lt;/span&gt; (or, as I like to put it, "E(e)mergent", because I feel so "postmodern" when I throw parentheses in the middle of a word like that). Anywho, one discussion took place on this side of the ocean, over at &lt;a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://tonyj.net/2008/04/15/emerging-vs-emergent/"&gt;Tony Jones' place&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;and another on the other side of the ocean over at &lt;a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jonnybaker.blogs.com/jonnybaker/2008/04/emerging-or-eme.html"&gt;Jonny Baker's place&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span&gt;Two&lt;/span&gt; weeks ago I spoke to a religion class at Calvin on emergent and people (including the professor whose class I was guest-lecturing in) wanted to know if I consider myself &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;emergent&lt;/span&gt;.  (But maybe he or they meant &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Emergent&lt;/span&gt; or &lt;em&gt;E(e)mergent.&lt;/em&gt;)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So what's the issue? Well, there are several issues. For one, there are people who are a part of a very large movement/conversation that quite literally spans the globe concerning how to do church in a postmodern, globalized context. This movement/conversation is very grass-rootsy, too. Not everyone who is a part of this movement/conversation is a part of the Organizaton/Institution in the U.S. known as Emergent (i.e., &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Emergent Village&lt;/span&gt; with spokespeople Tony Jones and Brian McLaren). Some who are a part of the larger movement, in fact, want to distance themselves from some of what the likes of Brian and Tony are up to. Anyway, these folks might like to say that they are part of &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;emergent&lt;/span&gt;, but not &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Emergent&lt;/span&gt;.  Problem is, outside of contexts like this one (i.e., this blog, where those reading are likely to have an inkling of the difference) there's just one word--&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;emergent&lt;/span&gt;--and the average person who hears it is likely to hear it as &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Emergent&lt;/span&gt;, i.e., as &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;everything-Brian-McLaren-says&lt;/span&gt; or &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;everything-Tony-Jones-says&lt;/span&gt; and so dismiss the whole movement/conversation as a result. In so doing, however, they may be throwing the proverbial baby out with the proverbial bath water, insofar as the baby (&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;emergent&lt;/span&gt; in this case) might just contain some things the thrower-outers highly value.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I myself don't like the question &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;"Do you see yourself as part of emergent?".&lt;/span&gt; But unlike many, I'm not allergic to categories and labels, as such. So that's not the issue for me. Yet when it comes to the label "emergent" I bristle. And this is so for two reasons. First, I am a Christian. That's a label. It is, in fact, a label I am happy to apply (with fear and trembling) to myself. The issue for me--and one we can add to the above--is that I am aware that the first Christians &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;were called&lt;/span&gt; Christians.  In other words, they didn't &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;call themselves&lt;/span&gt; Christians. Others applied that label to them. My view is this: I will simply &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;say what I say, do what I do and participate in the conversations I participate in and allow others to label and categorize me as they see fit. I feel there's too much work to be done to take time trying to figure out whether I'm &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;emergent&lt;/span&gt; or &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Emergent&lt;/span&gt; or whatever.  I have enough trouble trying to be and become a Christian. And that's what I really care about; not whether I'm &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;emergent&lt;/span&gt; or &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Emergent&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The second reason I bristle constitutes the third issue in the Emergent vs. emergent discussion. There are a good many people (including Jonny Baker) who feel that &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Emergent&lt;/span&gt; has become a brand. And to them this smacks of the very stuff of consumerism and (dare I say it?) the worst of  American pop culture. In other words, the Organization employs paid merchants of Christian cool and hip who are in the business of commodifying elements of the larger movement/conversation (plus some other stuff that has nothing to do with the larger conversation like where you buy your latte, where you wear your facial hair, if you're a guy, and other such stuff), packaging them, selling them in books, seminars and bus tours and calling the product "Emergent". And, well, not everyone is down with that, as commodification and merchandising tends to kill whatever it infects.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So to recap: emergent is the larger movement of which Emergent is a part.  Just as all Volkswagens are cars, but all cars are &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;not&lt;/span&gt; Volkwagens, so all &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Emergents&lt;/span&gt; are &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;emergent&lt;/span&gt; even if all &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;emergents&lt;/span&gt; are not &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Emergent&lt;/span&gt;.  Got it?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You know, whatever else you may think of Rob Bell, he assiduously and wisely avoids this whole business of labeling by refusing to be commodified by the Emerchants of cool. So too Shane Claiborne. Everyone who takes him or herself to be a part of &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;emergent&lt;/span&gt; or &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Emergent&lt;/span&gt; reads whatever either one of these guys say, and would I think, point to both of them as people who are living out the animating impulses of emergent. Yet neither of them self-identifies as emergent or Emergent. And I say, good for them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;How about you?  Are you Emergent, emergent, neither?  Do you care?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1054707203818412735-4222545140521947653?l=holyskinandbone.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/feeds/4222545140521947653/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1054707203818412735&amp;postID=4222545140521947653' title='38 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/4222545140521947653'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/4222545140521947653'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/2008/04/emergent-or-emergent-do-you-care_22.html' title='Emergent or emergent?  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It's not a shared set of &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;doctrine&lt;/span&gt; or a community built around &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;membership&lt;/span&gt;. Emergent is a festival of friends. The conversations that are the stuff of emergent take place within what  Tony calls an &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;envelope of friendship.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Emergent types seem pretty self-conscious of living in a world in which they are both at home and not at home. They are not at home in the sense that they feel the world pressing in on them and inviting them to find themselves in its story of consumption, greed, fear, exclusion and self-reliance. They are at home in the world in the sense that they feel made for &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;this&lt;/span&gt; time, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;this&lt;/span&gt; place, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;this&lt;/span&gt; earthly realm.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In a world characterized by consumption, greed, fear, exclusion, self-reliance and easy-to-prepare, prepackaged answers to life's difficult questions, emergents are finding each other, they're investing in each other, and they are orienting their lives &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;around&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt; each other&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span&gt;--from where they live and work to how they get there and whether or not they take the big promotion and move away. And if emergents don't feel wholly at home in the world, they don't feel anymore at home in traditional evangelical churches, and for some of the very same reasons they don't feel at home in the world. So, says Tony, emergents &lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;are "&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;largely people who feel great disappointment with modern American Christianity&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;" (p.70).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Where earlier generations of Christian dreamers dropped-out of society and dropped-in to communes, emergents are a new generation of dreamers, but they're &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;not&lt;/span&gt; dropping out of society, they're staying put, gathering together in urban and suburban locales, in virtual digs like blogs, myspaces, facebooks, etc. and, as I've so often heard it said, they're &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;doing life together&lt;/span&gt;.  &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;What&lt;/span&gt; are they doing together?  They're &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;thinking&lt;/span&gt;, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;dreaming&lt;/span&gt;, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;questioning&lt;/span&gt;, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;longing, worshipping&lt;/span&gt;, and &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;seeking&lt;/span&gt; to be agents of reconciliation and God's shalom at &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;this&lt;/span&gt; particular time in history and in the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;particular&lt;/span&gt; places and spaces they live, work and play.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Emergents have also abandoned a one-dimensional view of human beings they believe the Enlightenment bequeathed them, a view which sees us as primarily cognitive, rational, computing-machines, and they're embracing instead a more holistic view of human beings, a view which validates "emotions, experience, relationships, creativity, nature and the many other aspects of being human" (p.79). And all of this in a thick soup of &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;friendship&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My friend Dan Brennan has a blog &lt;span&gt;dedicated&lt;/span&gt; entirely to friendship. Like a lot of emergents, he's an adventurer and one of the frontiers he explores on his blog would scandalize garden variety evangelicals, i.e., &lt;a href="http://danbrennan.typepad.com/my_weblog/2008/04/cross-sex-frien.html"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;cross-gender &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;friendships&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; --&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span&gt;friendships between men and women who are not married to each other, but may (or may not) be married to someone else. These are &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt;deep, emotional, affectionate and intimate bonds, too;  but they are bonds that don't have &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt;genital&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt; union as their natural end. You'll notice by the way that I didn't say &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt;sexual&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt; union.  That's because the sort of intimacy Dan thinks can and should exist between cross-gender friends &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt;is&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt; sexual.  How can it not be when the friends are themselves sexual beings?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And this leads to another feature of emergents, what Tony refers to as "a &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt;hope-filled orientation&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt;" (p.72).  Emergents live &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt;eschatologically&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt;, i.e., in light of God's future, a glorious future that has come and is coming still. They're convinced that Jesus came with good news and that God has a program of all-inclusive love, wholeness and restoration for the world and they're eager to get on board with God's agenda. Their view of heaven, therefore, like my own, is not that of a disembodied place in the great by-and-by, but an embodied future where things--&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt;earthly&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt; things like relationships, drinking water, economic systems, eco-systems, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt;all things&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt;--are the way God ultimately intends them to be. That future, they believe, is something to get excited about and to start actively anticipating.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Did you notice that when I ended the brief paragraph on friendship and sex I began the very next paragraph with &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt;[A]nd this leads to another feature of emergents&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt;, and then I went on to talk about eschatology? If so you may have wondered what those two things have to do with each other, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt;sexuality&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt; and &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt;eschatology&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt;.  Permit me to stray from Tony's book for just a minute in order to say, very briefly,  how I see the two being connected.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The English word &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt;sex&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt; comes from the Latin &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt;secare &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt;which literally means &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt;to&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt;cut-off&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt; or to &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt;sever&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt;.  To be "sexed" is, in a very meaningful sense, to be &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt;cut-off&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt;,  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt;disconnected&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt; from a whole or &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt;severed&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt; from it. And that, I think, is part of the human condition, to find yourself self-aware, aware of a kind of loneliness, incompleteness or un-wholeness. Sexuality is nothing more and nothing less than that drive or energy in all of us for &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt;communion&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt;, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt;relationship&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt;, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt;connection&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt;, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt;affection&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt; and &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt;wholeness&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt;.  "&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt;It is not good for man to be alone&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt;."  That &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt;is&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt; sexuality.  And what is the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt;eschaton&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt; if not &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt;community&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt;, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt;connection&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt; and &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt;wholeness&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt;?  Communion with God and each other.   If &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt;sexuality&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt; is the question, the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt;eschaton&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt; is its answer.  So, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt;sexuality&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt; and &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt;eschatology&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt; are actually deeply connected.  In fact the one (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt;sexuality&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt;) is aimed at the other (the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt;eschaton&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt;).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;G&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt;enitality&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt;, by the way, or "sexual &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt;intercourse&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt;", is but &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt;one&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt; aspect of this larger phenomenon of sexuality. It's a really important aspect, but it oughtn't to be confused (the way it so often is) with the larger creational reality (i.e., sexuality) of which it is but a part.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anyway, back to Tony's book. Is emergent perfect? Does it always live up to its own ideals? I think what Fredericka Mathewews-Green says about culture applies to emergent itself, it's a&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt; "fleeting human creation, a spontaneous uncontrolled collaboration, and we shouldn't expect it ever to be perfect or even to be very good&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt;" (p.74). Like a flash-mob that converges for a brief time and then disperses, emergent is a sort of spontaneous uncontrolled collaboration of Christian dreamers. They're converging in real and virtual spaces and doing some wild and crazy things. Who knows how long the collaborative experiment will last. But when its time is up and the crowd disperses, you can bet its DNA will be passed on and turn up in some future gene pools. Right &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt;now&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt;, though, it's &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt;here&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1054707203818412735-3889446690980508941?l=holyskinandbone.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/feeds/3889446690980508941/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1054707203818412735&amp;postID=3889446690980508941' title='40 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/3889446690980508941'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/3889446690980508941'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/2008/04/festival-of-friends-and-sex.html' title='A Festival of Friends (and Sex)'/><author><name>Kevin Corcoran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17422789329481787215</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_UIcUp4yfmZw/SdzPy_tbHJI/AAAAAAAAAEY/uGtJ6uwPXhs/S220/dad+2+at+Birds+Nest_1.JPG'/></author><thr:total>40</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1054707203818412735.post-5358740567652721122</id><published>2008-04-15T20:00:00.007-04:00</published><updated>2008-04-13T23:22:37.738-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='deconsruction'/><title type='text'>Pomo footnote:  Stanley Fish at it Again</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:78%;"&gt;*Alright, since I screwed up and  published this for about an hour earlier today, and since people were interested in responding, I'll throw it up now and not wait until Tuesday which is when this is stamped and when it was scheduled to go up. (Today is Sunday 13 April.)  Thanks to a comment made by Keith DeRose during its brief, earlier life, it's been modified to reflect his input.   Thanks also to Lori Wilson for talking me down off the ledge and encouraging me to tone it down a bit.  Which I hope to have done.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Last week Stanley Fish  published another &lt;a href="http://fish.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/04/06/french-theory-in-america/"&gt;essay&lt;/a&gt; on deconstruction.  Here are two sequential paragraphs taken from it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255); font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Instead (and this is the killer), both the “I” or the knower, and the world that is to be known, are themselves not themselves, but the unstable products of mediation, of the very discursive, linguistic forms that in the rationalist tradition are regarded as merely secondary and instrumental. The “I” or subject, rather than being the free-standing originator and master of its own thoughts and perceptions, is a space traversed and constituted — given a transitory, ever-shifting shape — by ideas, vocabularies, schemes, models, distinctions that precede it, fill it and give it (textual) being.&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255); font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Cartesian trick of starting from the beginning and thinking things down to the ground can’t be managed because the engine of thought, consciousness itself, is inscribed (written) by discursive forms which “it” (in quotation marks because consciousness absent inscription is empty and therefore non-existent) did not originate and cannot step to the side of no matter how minimalist it goes. In short (and this is the kind of formulation that drives the enemies of French theory crazy), what we think with thinks us.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;John Searle said it first, but it applies here: &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;it’s stuff like this that gives bullshit a bad name. &lt;/span&gt;This sure gives deconstruction a bad name. Is there one coherent thought contained in the gobbelygook of those two paragraphs?  Honestly.  Isn't it just so much nonsense?  Literally?  If not, would someone please express the sense or meaning of these sentences in English I can understand.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You see, there's a difference between not understanding a physics or engineering paper or textbook and not understanding nonsense.  Nonsense can't be understood because it's nonsense.  Physics &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;can be&lt;/span&gt; understood, it is &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;understand-able &lt;/span&gt;even if you or I can't understand it.  Not so with nonsense.  It's not understandable.  It's nonsense.   Faulting someone for not understanding nonsense is like faulting a quadrapalegic for failing to jump into a pool to save a drowning child.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And here's the thing: not all philosophy done in the deconstructive mode is nonsense.  Some is perfectly sensible, helpful and useful even.  I have a colleague who is a card-carrying Continental philosopher, a former student of Caputo and something of an expert on Derrida.  Never have I read anything by him that is nonsense.  Sometimes I haven't understood him, but not because what he said wasn't understandable, but was instead nonsense. No.  Usually it's because I lack knowledge of some sort.  And after he educates me, I understand perfectly well.   This bit of Fish's strikes me as a fish of a different color.  Seems to me that it's either nonsense or an exercise in verbal or intellectual masturbation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Context is an important consideration, however. I understand that.  I understand that there are contexts in which the written word isn't offered in the spirit of communicating or conveying a point and to fault it for failing in this regard is a mistake.  Within some contexts the aim of the written word may be to &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;inspire&lt;/span&gt;, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;agitate&lt;/span&gt;, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;play&lt;/span&gt;, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;provoke&lt;/span&gt; or something else entirely (think of some types of poetry, for example).  But the context of this essay of Fish's is the bloody NY Times.  And an editorial at that (I think).   Alright.  I'm done.  Have at it/me.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1054707203818412735-5358740567652721122?l=holyskinandbone.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/feeds/5358740567652721122/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1054707203818412735&amp;postID=5358740567652721122' title='27 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/5358740567652721122'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/5358740567652721122'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/2008/04/pomo-footnote-stanley-fish-at-it-again_15.html' title='Pomo footnote:  Stanley Fish at it Again'/><author><name>Kevin Corcoran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17422789329481787215</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_UIcUp4yfmZw/SdzPy_tbHJI/AAAAAAAAAEY/uGtJ6uwPXhs/S220/dad+2+at+Birds+Nest_1.JPG'/></author><thr:total>27</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1054707203818412735.post-7873447044669184160</id><published>2008-04-09T18:52:00.020-04:00</published><updated>2008-04-12T09:51:29.080-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='emergent'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='postmodernism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='philosophy'/><title type='text'>What is Postmodernism?  More Tony Jones</title><content type='html'>I’ve decided to focus this installment of our series on Tony Jones' new book, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The New Christians: Dispatches from the Emergent Frontier&lt;/span&gt;, on a single issue.  I have done so because the issue is rather large and unusually squishy. What I want to talk about is postmodernism.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To begin, there’s this from chapter two, p.37:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;At its essence, emergent Christianity is an effort by a particular people in a particular time and place to respond to the gospel as it (once again) breaks through the age-old crusts. And it’s the shifting tectonics of postmodernism that caused the initial fissure.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Postmodernism (pomo for short) figures pretty heavily in this chapter and pretty heavily in emergent. Emergent authors and practitioners talk a lot about pomo. But what is it they're talking about? What is this 'thing' that caused the initial fissure within which emergent Christianity has taken root and is beginning to flower?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We get several characterizations in chapter two. According to one characterization, it’s a “cultural watershed” (p.38). According to another it marks an “age of &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;enlightened mystcism&lt;/span&gt;” (p.43—Tony quoting Brad Cecil, an important voice at the beginning of emergent back in the late 90’s; italics Tony’s).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Well, I dunno what Tony or Brad might mean by &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;enlightened&lt;/span&gt; mystcism, and that's because I don't know what they mean by &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;mysticism&lt;/span&gt;. And I must confess to being a wee bit skeptical of the "watershed" view of postmodernism. The idea, as Tony presents Brad presenting it in chapter two, and as the annoying know-it-all "Neo" presents it in Brian Mclaren's &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;A Generous Orthodoxy&lt;/span&gt;, is that some sort of cataclysmic, epochal shift occurred in the fairly recent past, when we moved from 'modernism', or a modernist way of viewing the world, to 'postmodernism', or a postmodernist way of viewing the world.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'm not sure what to make of that claim either. It's the putatively "epic" nature of the shift that I have problems with. I have no doubt about there being differences, and significant differences at that, between &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;this&lt;/span&gt; generation and previous generations. But I'm inclined to think that those differences are largely cultural and have little to do with the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;philosophical&lt;/span&gt; ruminations of the patron saints of so-called deconstructive philosophy, with whom postmodernism is often associated, such as Derrida and Lyotard.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So what do people mean by 'postmodernism'? Here's how John Caputo puts it in a quote that Tony uses as an epigraph at the beginning of the book, and refers to in this chapter:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;Postmodernism...is not relativism or skepticism, as its uncomprehending critics almost daily charge, but minutely close attention to detail, a sense for the complexity and multiplicity of things, for close readings, for detailed histories, for sensitivity to differences. The postmodernists think the devil is in the details, but they also have reason to hope that none of this will antagonize God.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Tony doesn't tell us where that comes from, but there it is. I like the John Caputo behind that quote. (It's the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;other&lt;/span&gt; John Caputo, the one who is in fact a pretty thoroughgoing epistemological, and so &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;religious&lt;/span&gt;, skeptic that I don't like nearly as much! But that's a topic for another day.) For one thing, I understand what the Caputo behind this quote says here. (That's not always the case with the other Caputo.) And for another, I'm rather favorably disposed to postmodernism if this is what it is.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let me offer my own definition of postmodernism. I begin by first distinguishing between &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;cultural&lt;/span&gt; pomo and &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;philosophical&lt;/span&gt; pomo. Some of the features of the former include new technologies, new forms of connectivity (cell phones, the internet w/its ubiquitous social networks, like Facebook and Myspace, etc), decentralization and globalization. These features of pomo are, I think, very significant. Epic? Maybe. I dunno, though.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Philosophical&lt;/span&gt; postmodernism, on the other hand, involves calling into question “meta-narratives” or grand stories of the world and our place in it, like Marxism, atheistic naturalism, consumerism and Christianity itself. What gets called into question by philosophical postmodernism is our ability to float free of the grand narratives we find ourselves in and to view things from a “God’s eye view.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Those sensitive to this sort of postmodernism recognize that our grasp of reality is always &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;partial&lt;/span&gt;, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;incomplete&lt;/span&gt;, and &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;fragmentary&lt;/span&gt;. And this recognition can engender humility, tolerance, and an opening for dialogue with others. Those who really appreciate our human finitude and situatedness are more inclined to say, “Here’s how I see things and here’s why. But, I recognize that I am a finite and frail human being; so I could certainly be the one with blind spots. How do you see things?’ as opposed to saying “I’m right. You’re wrong, and going to hell. End of story.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This flavor of pomo resonates very deeply with me and, if I read Tony and other of the "new" Christians right, it resonates very deeply with them, too.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;And yet&lt;/span&gt;. And yet there is another element some people (including some emergents) often add to this plausible rendering of postmodernism. And that is what I will call, following Alvin Plantinga, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;creative anti-realism&lt;/span&gt; or &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;social constructivism&lt;/span&gt;. I think this is what people often have in mind when they say such things as that &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;there is no objective truth&lt;/span&gt; and the like.  Those who add this element to pomo do so, it seems to me, because they believe (mistakenly in my view) that &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;either&lt;/span&gt; the epistemic humility characteristic of the plausible strain of pomo &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;requires&lt;/span&gt; it &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;or&lt;/span&gt; they believe (also mistakenly I would say) that the plausible form of pomo &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;leads&lt;/span&gt; to it. In any case, it's this element that seems to me utterly &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;im&lt;/span&gt;plausible.  Let me explain.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am inclined to think that there is (say) God and &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;our various understandings of &lt;/span&gt;God (e.g., that God is loving and merciful and gracious, etc.). I'm also inclined to think that there are the objects that populate the world (like stars and mountains and mollusks) and &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;our concepts of&lt;/span&gt; those objects. Well, so far as I can tell, the less than plausible brand of pomo (i.e. social constructivism) rejects this commonsense view of things. According to it it is our concepts and language that actually &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;create&lt;/span&gt; God and the objects that populate the world. We don't &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;discover&lt;/span&gt; objects in the world or their properties and then use language and concepts to refer to them and describe them, we create them with our words and concepts. It sounds crazy, I know, but the view really is that &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;we create what we find&lt;/span&gt;, be it God, stars, mountains or mollusks. And, as I say, this sounds utterly implausible to me.  (Though I should also add that very smart people who are not French philosophers have said these very same things.  For example, the American philosopher Nelson Goodman embraced this very view.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here's a slightly tamer variation of the social-constructive sort of pomo. It's the view that while there may be a world independent of our concepts and language we are incapable of ever coming to know it as it is independent of us. As this relates to God the idea seems to be something like this. God is so big, so &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;wholly other&lt;/span&gt;, and we are so small (or finite), that to &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;name&lt;/span&gt; God as loving or merciful or gracious (or whatever) is really to create an idol, it's really an attempt to domesticate or tame the un-tameable, to name the un-nameable.  Those attracted to this view are thus very attracted to what is called &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;apaphatic&lt;/span&gt; or &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;negative&lt;/span&gt; theology, the view that no words can legitimately be used to describe God, that none of the properties we ascribe to God actually apply, and so the proper but difficult task of theology is to rid our minds of its idols (i.e., our names for and descriptions of God).  For this  will make way for the event of God.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It's these latter two elements, often layered over the plausible form of pomo, that lead some emergents to call for a Christianity &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;beyond belief&lt;/span&gt;.  The idea is that committing oneself to concrete Christian beliefs is to place oneself in the primordial waters of modernism. The &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;post&lt;/span&gt;modern turn for Christians is a turn &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;away&lt;/span&gt; from Christianity &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;as believing&lt;/span&gt; certain things and a turn &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;toward&lt;/span&gt; Chrisitanity as being fundamentally about opening oneself to a transformative event.   As I read them, &lt;a href="www.amazon.com/execobidos/ASIN/0787983594"&gt;Spencer Burke&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1557255059"&gt;Pete Rollins&lt;/a&gt; advocate this view.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Maybe an example will help.  My friend Pete (Rollins) seems to think that realist claims don't apply to the religious realm. Did Jesus literally and really rise from the dead? I want to say "Look, if he didn't, then those who claim to have been transformed by an encounter with the risen Christ are mistaken." People who say they've had such an experience may in fact have experienced a transformative event,  but if Christ is not risen, then their transformation does not owe to an event involving the resurrected Christ. Pete, on the other hand, seems to think that Christianity is a subjective, transformative event that is detachable from historical realist claims.  He seems to think  that it’s possible to undergo a transformative event of the resurrected Christ even if Christ hasn't really risen. And that doesn't make sense to me. Mind you, I'm all for  Christianity as subjecive, transfomative event. I’m even open to the possibility of people participating in such an event without realizing that it is an encounter with the risen Christ.  But if the event has anything to do &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;with&lt;/span&gt; a risen Christ, then Christ must be risen.  (You can view an exchange Pete and I had about this issue on his blog by going &lt;a href="http://peterrollins.net/blog/?p=21"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let me bring all this back down to earth with a bit of autobiography. When I think of a biblical story that parallels my own life experience, I think of the story of Peter out in the boat and Jesus calling him to himself, calling him to get out of the boat and come toward him. Peter must have been scared feces-less. I feel like Peter a lot of the time, in the sense that I feel like I’ve received a call (from Jesus) but between me and him is a raging storm, or to switch metaphors, between me and him is a thick woods. I can’t see clearly most of the time. So I’m doing my best (and sometimes less than my best) to make my way toward that voice, toward the one issuing the call.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, as I understand it, mine is not a faith that is a groping toward an &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;I-know-no-what&lt;/span&gt;. Mine is a faith that is a groping, but a groping toward God, a God of all-inclusive love, compassion and mercy who was, I believe, in Christ reconciling the world to himself and bringing about a new reality, a new society. A robust recognition that I am a finite creature, frail and given to self-deception, and that my knowledge of God and the world is thus always partial, fragmentary and incomplete, does not lead me to religious &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;skepticism&lt;/span&gt; (which I think it does lead to in Caputo and Rollins). What it leads to in me, I’d like to think, is &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;epistemic&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;humility&lt;/span&gt;. But epistemic humility is perfectly compatible with concrete Christian beliefs and commitments.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;All of this having been said, let me add that I still like to read Pete and Caputo.  Why?  Mainly because I learn from them.  I believe that deconstructive philosophy can function as a kind of therapy and can be profoundly helpful.  There is a very real sense in which it is true to say that the past three years of my life have been one long deconstructive event.  And in the midst of my own disorientation and confusion a space was broken wide open and in that space God appeared and I was re-oriented and re-constructed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Okay, 'nuff said.  I do think it’s important that we get as clear as we can about what it is we’re talking about when we talk about pomo.  If the pomo of emergent is the more plausible version of philosophical pomo I described above, then I’m on board.  If it’s the less plausible or implausible pomo of creative anti-realism, I’m not.  And what of of apaphaticism?  Well, I guess I think our language can apply quite literally to God.  Which is not to say that I think human language can ever exhaustively describe God.   I believe God really is loving and compassionate and just.  And I'm sure I cannot plumb the depths of God's love and compassion and justice with words or concepts.  But I also don't think that when we get to heaven (or heaven in all its fullness gets to us) we will discover that God was so wholly other, and our language so impotent, that it turns out God is really a self-absorbed, hateful, wicked, unjust and apathetic sonofabitch.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Next time, friendship and eschatology.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1054707203818412735-7873447044669184160?l=holyskinandbone.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/feeds/7873447044669184160/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1054707203818412735&amp;postID=7873447044669184160' title='13 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/7873447044669184160'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/7873447044669184160'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/2008/04/what-is-postmodernism-more-tony-jones.html' title='What is Postmodernism?  More Tony Jones'/><author><name>Kevin Corcoran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17422789329481787215</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_UIcUp4yfmZw/SdzPy_tbHJI/AAAAAAAAAEY/uGtJ6uwPXhs/S220/dad+2+at+Birds+Nest_1.JPG'/></author><thr:total>13</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1054707203818412735.post-762315861673206992</id><published>2008-04-04T13:18:00.003-04:00</published><updated>2008-04-06T09:09:19.421-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='kingdom'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='politics'/><title type='text'>40 Years Past/Future</title><content type='html'>&lt;object width="320" height="266" class="BLOG_video_class" id="BLOG_video-838e8d2f485a8e68" classid="clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000" codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=6,0,40,0"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/get_player"&gt;&lt;param name="bgcolor" value="#FFFFFF"&gt;&lt;param name="allowfullscreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="flashvars" value="flvurl=http://v15.nonxt4.googlevideo.com/videoplayback?id%3D838e8d2f485a8e68%26itag%3D5%26app%3Dblogger%26ip%3D0.0.0.0%26ipbits%3D0%26expire%3D1330310145%26sparams%3Did,itag,ip,ipbits,expire%26signature%3D41F1E5C21A59AC7FF083ADB1E81F0FB0C03B4E3C.57333FB7194B7509FEAD1A50DE2AA5FA81FFBB5D%26key%3Dck1&amp;amp;iurl=http://video.google.com/ThumbnailServer2?app%3Dblogger%26contentid%3D838e8d2f485a8e68%26offsetms%3D5000%26itag%3Dw160%26sigh%3DT6OQcSKJPKFRoGXf6cUgFox-SRw&amp;amp;autoplay=0&amp;amp;ps=blogger"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/get_player" type="application/x-shockwave-flash"width="320" height="266" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"flashvars="flvurl=http://v15.nonxt4.googlevideo.com/videoplayback?id%3D838e8d2f485a8e68%26itag%3D5%26app%3Dblogger%26ip%3D0.0.0.0%26ipbits%3D0%26expire%3D1330310145%26sparams%3Did,itag,ip,ipbits,expire%26signature%3D41F1E5C21A59AC7FF083ADB1E81F0FB0C03B4E3C.57333FB7194B7509FEAD1A50DE2AA5FA81FFBB5D%26key%3Dck1&amp;iurl=http://video.google.com/ThumbnailServer2?app%3Dblogger%26contentid%3D838e8d2f485a8e68%26offsetms%3D5000%26itag%3Dw160%26sigh%3DT6OQcSKJPKFRoGXf6cUgFox-SRw&amp;autoplay=0&amp;ps=blogger"allowFullScreen="true" /&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1054707203818412735-762315861673206992?l=holyskinandbone.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='enclosure' type='video/mp4' href='http://www.blogger.com/video-play.mp4?contentId=838e8d2f485a8e68&amp;type=video%2Fmp4' length='0'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/feeds/762315861673206992/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1054707203818412735&amp;postID=762315861673206992' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/762315861673206992'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/762315861673206992'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/2008/04/40-years-pastfuture.html' title='40 Years Past/Future'/><author><name>Kevin Corcoran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17422789329481787215</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_UIcUp4yfmZw/SdzPy_tbHJI/AAAAAAAAAEY/uGtJ6uwPXhs/S220/dad+2+at+Birds+Nest_1.JPG'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1054707203818412735.post-1821046266432665258</id><published>2008-04-04T10:08:00.007-04:00</published><updated>2008-04-06T09:26:55.130-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='emergent'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='tony jones'/><title type='text'>Tony Jones:  You’ve Got to Leave it Behind (?)</title><content type='html'>A busy week for this sack of skin and bone, so my apologies for not getting this up sooner.  I’m going to begin at the very beginning of Tony’s book &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The New Christians: Dispatches from the Emergent Frontier&lt;/span&gt;, since I’m told that’s a very good place to start. This whole series of posts will not consist in detailed reviews; instead, we’ll go for the highlights, a sort of ESPN-like “week in review” that seeks to capture the diving catches, impressive dunks and soon forgotten bloopers that make for good audio-visual consumption.  We may not go chapter by chapter either.  To get us started though we’ll begin with chapter one, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Leaving the Old Country&lt;/span&gt;.  I’ll make a few observations and then leave you with a question or two (or four).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The story with which this chapter opens is beautiful.  It’s beauty lies in its likeness to God’s kingdom—surprising, unexpected, shocking. Tony recounts a recent airplane experience he’s had.  He gets bumped up to first-class and sits next to a pregnant woman he is quite sure did not get bumped but instead seems to him the sort that would fly first-class regularly.  He judges this woman to be a paragon of New York chic, based on what she’s wearing, and where she’s sitting.  She strikes him as hip, urban and probably something like a NYC magazine Editor. She sets about working on her stylish MacBook Pro while poor Tony pulls out his less than flashy Dell.  The kingdom comes when midway through the flight the woman closes her sleek, silver MBP, takes out a very traditional rosary, drapes it upon her pregnant belly, closes her eyes and begins silently to pray a prayer that’s been prayed by such paragons of &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;un&lt;/span&gt;-chic and &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;un&lt;/span&gt;-hip as Mother Teresa of Calcutta.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I love that!  Tony thought he had her pegged, figured out and then—BAM—his preconceptions are turned on their head.  Tony doesn’t use the story to make this kingdom point (but it makes it very nicely, I think), he uses it to underwrite his contention that contrary to what many expected at the beginning of the century—that the more educated and secular we become the less religious we become—we are actually only becoming &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;differently&lt;/span&gt; religious not &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;less&lt;/span&gt; religious.  And while there are many Americans—some 225 million by his count—who lay claim to church membership the level of their commitment to denominations and particular doctrines is growing weaker.  Increasing numbers of self-confessed Christians do not care very much about denominations nor for the specific doctrines that define them.  And even though the vast majority of self-confessing Christians (some 90%) can tell you what church they belong to there are, out on the fringes, out on the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;frontier&lt;/span&gt; Tony would say, another 10% who are leaving the homeland—the churches of their parents—and heading into the far country.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;God may not be dead, but church as usual Tony thinks is.  The old style churches still exist—like pay phones still exist—but they’ve outlived their usefulness.  As evidence that something is rotten in the Denmark of the Church, Tony points to recent riffs within Anglicanism, the Southern Baptist Convention and other sadnesses within the more left leaning churches as evidence.  But probably the most telling piece of evidence are the stats of Barna and boys, who report that some twenty million &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;evangelical&lt;/span&gt; Christians have forsaken their church pews for home groups, house churches or no church at all.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yes, the times they are a changin’ and while emergents are not so much interested in rejecting the past they are even less interested in preserving it. What they’re not interested in preserving is institutional bureaucracy and the supplemental trappings that keep the institutions alive while simultaneously sucking the life out of the very people they’re intended to serve.  That’s the story on the left.  On the right, the evangelical church, in its desire for cultural influence, has gotten into bed with politicians hoping that by so doing the church might act as some sort of moral yeast or leaven in what is perceived to be a thoroughly immoral society.  But if there’s anything to be learned from Elliot Spitzer it’s that when it comes to prostitution and politics, neither politics nor the whore that services him, usually wakes up in the morning feeling very good about themselves.    And Tony’s point is that, here we are, we’ve awakened 10, 20, 30 years after Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson and James Dobson’s forays into politics and the moral landscape of contemporary American life is virtually unchanged.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And there’s more bad news.  Old school evangelicalism of the sort espoused by Falwell, Robertson and Dobson believes that saving individual souls will translate into moral, communal and societal change, usually thought of in terms of a single issue—abortion. This was/is the single moral issue whose solution—making abortion illegal—was believed to be the key to our nation's favor with God.  Thankfully, evangelicalism now sees that there are other issues that are moral issues.  Well okay maybe &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;one &lt;/span&gt;more anyway—homosexuality.  Ridding our nation of homosexuals and abortion is bound to find favor with God.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But it’s this sort of thinking that “the new Christians” are leaving behind.  As Tony sees it (and as I see it too) there’s a seriously mutilated, one-dimensional, monochrome-colored gospel at work here.  It’s not the gospel of Jesus.  The gospel of Jesus, the gospel that &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;is&lt;/span&gt; Jesus, is a gospel that sees salvation as much, much larger, grander and all-encompassing than the gospel of individualism.  Poverty, the environment, factory farming, education, racism, sexism—the gospel concerns them all.  Salvation, reconciliation, redemption, the New Jerusalem is about all these worldly (horizontal) matters as much as about getting one’s soul right with God (what is usually thought of as a vertical matter).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A few more items, then a couple of questions.  First, the new Christians have little patience for the classic polarities that have defined life inside and outside church—like the perpetual conservative vs. liberal boxing matches played out on cable television, talk radio and denominational witch trials.  Here’a great image from the book:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;Meanwhile, a [new] generation of Christians aren’t even boxing anymore.  They’re out flying kites. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I love that image because it gets at a sort of &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;playfulness&lt;/span&gt; that is characteristic of emergents and perhaps best exemplified in the whimsical, jesting antics of social activist Shane Claiborne of &lt;a href="http://www.blogger.com/www.thesimpleway.com"&gt;The Simple Way&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To my mind, these are the diving catches and powerful dunks delivered in the first chapter.  And I’ll want to say more later about the emphasis within emergent on relationships and deep friendships. For now, though, let’s look at a blooper.  And I’ll just mention this point without belaboring it because I’ll take it up in a later post.  As a philosopher, and an &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;analytic&lt;/span&gt; philosopher at that, I get a little jittery when Tony or Brian Mclaren or anyone else writing on or from within emergent starts talking about philosophy.  In this chapter, Tony brings up what he says philosophers call “foundationalism” and the inherent infinite regression supposedly inherent in all foundationalist systems.   What I get jittery about is that when Tony talks about philosophy it is usually so-called postmodern philosophy he has in mind.  And there are several mistakes I think emergents often make in their discussions of philosophy.  But, as I say, I’m not going to press the point here.  I’ll take it up later (maybe even next time, since philosophy and postmodernism does put in an appearance in chapter two).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Okay, a few questions for you to chew on.&lt;br /&gt;1.    From your own experience or observations, is Tony right that lots of people with emergent sensibilities are leaving behind institutional churches?  I ask this because my experience in the UK at least suggests that emergent functions just as much, if not more, as a &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;supplement&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;to&lt;/span&gt; traditional church (i.e., Anglicanism in England) and not as a replacement of it&lt;br /&gt;2.    From  your own experience or observations, do doctrines and beliefs seem less important to you and your generation than they seemed to your parents generation?&lt;br /&gt;3.    Do you agree with Tony that traditional, institutional churches are becoming relics, like payphones and phonebooths?&lt;br /&gt;4.  Where do churches like Mars Hill, which seem to me to embody many characteristic features of emergent, fit within Tony's taxonomy of contemporary church?  I'm sure he'd say it's a megachurch (since it is), but is it &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;emergent&lt;/span&gt;?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1054707203818412735-1821046266432665258?l=holyskinandbone.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/feeds/1821046266432665258/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1054707203818412735&amp;postID=1821046266432665258' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/1821046266432665258'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/1821046266432665258'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/2008/04/tony-jones-youve-got-to-leave-it-behind.html' title='Tony Jones:  You’ve Got to Leave it Behind (?)'/><author><name>Kevin Corcoran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17422789329481787215</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_UIcUp4yfmZw/SdzPy_tbHJI/AAAAAAAAAEY/uGtJ6uwPXhs/S220/dad+2+at+Birds+Nest_1.JPG'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1054707203818412735.post-2396612395973112056</id><published>2008-03-31T13:34:00.007-04:00</published><updated>2008-04-06T09:32:09.149-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='emodiment'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='chrisitian materialism'/><title type='text'>Why Matter Matters</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;  Jesus showed the apostles real hands and a real side.  He really ate with his disciples;     he really walked with Cleopas; he really conversed with people, using a real tongue.      Jesus really reclined at supper, and with real hands he took bread, blessed and broke     it, and offered it to them…Don’t let yourselves be deceived into thinking that Jesus         ate with out teeth, walked without feet, broke bread without hands, spoke without a     tongue, or showed a side that had no ribs.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;                                                                                 —Saint Jerome&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Christian story, from the beginning of the narrative in Genesis to its dramatic climax in Revelation, is an &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;earthy&lt;/span&gt; story, a &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;fleshy&lt;/span&gt; story that celebrates materiality, laments its perversion by human sin, and eagerly awaits its ultimate glorification in the resurrection life. Creation may not be exhausted by &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;material&lt;/span&gt; creation (&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;angels&lt;/span&gt; are created and they're not material), but it is the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;material&lt;/span&gt; world whose creation is chronicled in the opening pages of Genesis and whose tale of glory and disgrace, near total collapse and full restoration is told throughout the bible.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The story of creation, by the way, is not merely a story of Divine &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;production&lt;/span&gt; or &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;origination&lt;/span&gt; either. It is a story of Divine &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;delight&lt;/span&gt;, delight in the material world brought into being by the Word. Indeed the creational refrain &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;“It is good!”&lt;/span&gt; echoes through the pages of Genesis and beyond.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The doctrine of the incarnation, the taking on of &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;flesh&lt;/span&gt; by the second person of the Trinity, signals God’s &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;re&lt;/span&gt;-affirmation of embodiment and creation. So too the Ascension.  The incarnation of the second person of the Trinity, his taking on of flesh, was neither momentary nor provisional. God’s persistent &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;“Yes&lt;/span&gt;!” to embodiment reverberates into eternity in the resurrection, exaltation, and glorification of the embodied Christ. The humanity of Christ, his embodied nature, is not shed in the New Jerusalem. It is taken up, exalted and glorified.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Remember too that the most prominent image used in Scripture for what awaits us in the hereafter is that of a great banquet, nothing short of a Eucharistic feast of carnal delight. And not a whiff of disembodied or ghostly existence is to be found anywhere in that image.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you want to know what it means to be human, what it means to live a full-orbed and flourishing human life, look to the embodied Christ. What you will discover there is exactly what sober-minded theologians have been telling us all along: that an authentic human existence consists in a fully embodied life rightly lived in relation to God, to neighbor, and to the rest of the terrestrial world.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now I’m on record as saying that we human beings are &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;wholly&lt;/span&gt; material beings, lacking immaterial parts such as an immaterial soul.  And I believe that a world-affirming, material-affirming view of our nature has concrete, practical implications.  For example, a recognition of the fact that God’s kingdom has come to us in the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;embodied&lt;/span&gt; Christ helps us to avoid misconceiving our eternal destiny &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;vertically&lt;/span&gt;, as “up in the heavens.” Instead it encourages us to reconceive the kingdom of God &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;horizontally&lt;/span&gt;, as here and now, even if its eventual fulfillment lies in a future—an &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;embodied&lt;/span&gt; future—that we anxiously await and actively anticipate.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Second, wrapped as we are in flesh and bones, and embodied in ever-expanding circles of social relations— family, neighborhood, community and world,  materialist-friendly views of human nature make good sense of the urgency and importance of our call to feed the hungry, clothe the naked, and to pursue this-worldly justice. Why? Because the fact that we are &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;material&lt;/span&gt; beings highlights the fact that starvation, want, and &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;physical&lt;/span&gt; impoverishment are &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;kingdom&lt;/span&gt; concerns. The world of bullfrogs and butterflies, of economic systems and environmental hazards, the world of sex and love, of loneliness and connection, the world of factory farms and consumer goods—in short, the fully, physical world that both depresses and delights us, is precisely the world that matters to God.  It is &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;this&lt;/span&gt; world that God is restoring. Contrary to the sacred hymn, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;this&lt;/span&gt; world &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;is&lt;/span&gt; our home. It is broken, disfigured, and &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;dis&lt;/span&gt;-eased to be sure, but it matters to us. It matters to us because we are created for it in all of its physicality.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A materialist-friendly view of human nature also serves to protect us against turning our longings for a new day into longings for a disembodied existence in some far off and distant heaven. Like the prophets of long ago, whose longings were for this world finally to be as God intends—a world where lions lie down with lambs and swords are beaten into plowshares, where the hungry are fed and the broken hearted are lifted up—a materialist view of human nature can encourage us to eagerly long for and actively anticipate this embodied future that only God can realize. The way of Christ incarnate offers us this future. What it offers us is a &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;new&lt;/span&gt; way to be human.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And, I might add, this future, this &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;new&lt;/span&gt; way of being human, is one of the siren songs of emergent faith.  And it’s a hopeful song, too.  Those tired of singing the old world-desping, body-desping, social justice-rejecting, polarity-producing songs of our forebears, find this sort of song refresing, inspiring and deeply resonant.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But wait (I can hear the naysayer say), this sort of view denies that we’ve been made in God’s image.  How can we have been made in God’s image if we’re not &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;immaterial&lt;/span&gt; souls? Well, there are many ways that we human beings image God, and none requires that we be immaterial. We image God when we care for creation and contribute to the terrestrial flourishing of the created order. Indeed, this is what the Bible means when it speaks of our having been given “dominion.” To have dominion is to care for others, including &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;non-human&lt;/span&gt; “others” like ocean and stream, octopus and salamander; to have dominion is to tend to the well being of &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;all the earth&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We also image God when we live in loving relation to other human beings and invest ourselves in their flourishing and well-being. God is a Trinity, so it should come as no surprise that we image God in &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;social&lt;/span&gt; and not just private ways. The tenor of the relation between the three persons of the Trinity is one of a harmonious and free exchange of love and joy.  Engaging in acts of mercy, hospitality, love, kindness, and so on is to act like God. In fact, we image God best when we image Jesus, who welcomed the outcast, fed the hungry, gave sight to the blind, hated evil, and delighted in doing the work of the Father. We also image God in our suffering. God is love. To love is to open oneself up to suffering. And suffering love is God-love. When we lay down our lives for our friends, and yes, our enemies, too, we image God, who laid down his life for us in Jesus.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;God is a society of three; so, that we bear God’s image in social ways ought not to surprise us. Moreover, it is hard to imagine how we might image God in the ways I’ve just described if we are isolated atoms or immaterial souls. In short, there is nothing in the doctrine of the imago Dei, rightly understood, that entails we are immaterial souls.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Skin and bone is what we are.  &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Holy&lt;/span&gt; skin and bone.  And what we've been set apart for is anticipating that &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;new&lt;/span&gt; humanity, that &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;new&lt;/span&gt; society of wholeness and flourishing.  There's work to be done.  And those of us called to that work get impatient when we're told that &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;first&lt;/span&gt; we've got to figure out the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;right&lt;/span&gt; positions on a host of theological and philosophical-theological doctrines and issues.  I don't think so.  Not that I don't enjoy exploring philosophical-theological issues and doctrines (&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;some&lt;/span&gt; of them anyway, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;some&lt;/span&gt; of the time).  But I don't enjoy the social paralysis that endless debate oftentimes produces.   And it's that paralysis that emergent types also loathe.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Okay, ‘nuff said.  Tony Jones and &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The New Christians:  Dispatches from the Emergent Frontier&lt;/span&gt; is coming up…..&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1054707203818412735-2396612395973112056?l=holyskinandbone.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/feeds/2396612395973112056/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1054707203818412735&amp;postID=2396612395973112056' title='16 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/2396612395973112056'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/2396612395973112056'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/2008/03/why-matter-matters.html' title='Why Matter Matters'/><author><name>Kevin Corcoran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17422789329481787215</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_UIcUp4yfmZw/SdzPy_tbHJI/AAAAAAAAAEY/uGtJ6uwPXhs/S220/dad+2+at+Birds+Nest_1.JPG'/></author><thr:total>16</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1054707203818412735.post-8747834568991464917</id><published>2008-03-29T10:05:00.006-04:00</published><updated>2008-04-06T09:32:57.487-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='emergent'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='tony jones'/><title type='text'>Lookin' Ahead to Tony Jones</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://tonyj.net/"&gt;Tony Jones&lt;/a&gt;--emergent guru and all around hipster--(whoever says Rob Bell put the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;hip&lt;/span&gt; in disciples&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;hip&lt;/span&gt; hasn't met Tony, a self-confessed mini-van driving, little-league coaching, boyscout-leading, 40 year old hunka-hunka burnin' love; Christianity's answer to &lt;a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=4IL_pbFbYK0&amp;amp;feature=related"&gt;Unknown Hinson&lt;/a&gt;) recently and very kindly sent me a copy of his new book &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The New Christians: Dispatches from the Emergent Frontier&lt;/span&gt;.   Starting  next week  I'll be blogging about it.  I'm about halfway in, and I'm lovin' it.  It's one of those rare books whose title actually has something to do with its content.  So far, anyway, it's largely a descriptive account of emergent, what the movement is growing out of, what it hopes to be growing into and how it all got started.  He gives us the inside story as one of its midwives, someone at the bedside of emergent's birth and there for its first, shaky steps into the wild and sometimes less-than-hospitable spaces of 21st Century life.  So, stay tuned for that.  In the mean time, grab a copy of Tony's latest book and check back here soon.  (Alright, admit it, you want more Unknown Hinson.  Okay, here you  &lt;a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=zNdIAbfdQUI&amp;amp;feature=related"&gt;go&lt;/a&gt;.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[12:10 p.m. Saturday 3/29/08&lt;br /&gt;Correction: I believe I mistakenly attributed a kindness to Tony which actually belongs to Keith DeRose.  Since I had corresponded w/Tony about the interim I taught and a book project I'm putting together on emergent, I assumed the copy of his book I received in the mail had come from him.  Actually, I'm given now to believe it came from Keith.  Thanks very much, Keith!  Sorry, Tony.  You're still kind; just not responsible for this particular kindness.]&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1054707203818412735-8747834568991464917?l=holyskinandbone.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/feeds/8747834568991464917/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1054707203818412735&amp;postID=8747834568991464917' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/8747834568991464917'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/8747834568991464917'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/2008/03/lookin-ahead.html' title='Lookin&apos; Ahead to Tony Jones'/><author><name>Kevin Corcoran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17422789329481787215</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_UIcUp4yfmZw/SdzPy_tbHJI/AAAAAAAAAEY/uGtJ6uwPXhs/S220/dad+2+at+Birds+Nest_1.JPG'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1054707203818412735.post-6656445538470077878</id><published>2008-03-27T10:00:00.006-04:00</published><updated>2008-04-06T09:33:37.641-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='rock music'/><title type='text'>Momma Killed a Chicken She Thought it Was a Duck</title><content type='html'>As many who read this blog know, I love rock-n-roll.  I grew up listening to the likes of Bob Dylan, mainly because I had an older brother and he listened to Bob Dylan, in addition to the Beatles,The Rolling Stones, The Doors, Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young, Buffalo Springfield, etc. My brother's eight years older than me, so I sort of inherited some of his musical tastes.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In high school, back in the 80’s, I was a bonafide Dylan fan.  And then my senior year a classmate of mine, Greg Massiello, said “If you like Dylan, you should listen to Larry Norman.”  I had never heard of him.  But I listened and was hooked.  Norman was real, his lyrics raw—&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;ghonerhia on valentines day; you're still lookin' for the perfect lay&lt;/span&gt;—, sometimes off-the-wall—&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;walking backwards down the stairs; trying to get higher, higher&lt;/span&gt;—and often funny. &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Watch What You’re Doin’&lt;/span&gt; went like this:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Momma killed a chicken she thought it was a duck&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;She put it on the table with it’s legs stickin’ up&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Pappa broke his glasses when he fell down drunk&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He tried to drown the kitty-cat turned out to be a skunk&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You gotta watch what you’re doin’; don'cha know&lt;br /&gt;you gotta watch wha you’re doin’&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And then,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;I knew a girl, as sweet as could be&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But she fell for a man like chain-sawed tree&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;She listened to his lies, got fooled by his charms&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now she’s sittin’ with a baby in her arms&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You gotta watch what you’re doin’….&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here’s Norman in 1988 with a classic, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Great American Novel&lt;/span&gt;.  Some of the lyrics are eerily relevant to our current political situation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object width="320" height="266" class="BLOG_video_class" id="BLOG_video-2a2e7b94f3509388" classid="clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000" codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=6,0,40,0"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/get_player"&gt;&lt;param name="bgcolor" value="#FFFFFF"&gt;&lt;param name="allowfullscreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="flashvars" value="flvurl=http://v7.nonxt6.googlevideo.com/videoplayback?id%3D2a2e7b94f3509388%26itag%3D5%26app%3Dblogger%26ip%3D0.0.0.0%26ipbits%3D0%26expire%3D1330310145%26sparams%3Did,itag,ip,ipbits,expire%26signature%3D6F348F010513BFC968C0D13F0CA9BEC25F114CEC.3E014C0A42B26F71199E94F91F5EF85A302A1C81%26key%3Dck1&amp;amp;iurl=http://video.google.com/ThumbnailServer2?app%3Dblogger%26contentid%3D2a2e7b94f3509388%26offsetms%3D5000%26itag%3Dw160%26sigh%3DUd7R82yvUk1QNn9c_fFrfU_AjDw&amp;amp;autoplay=0&amp;amp;ps=blogger"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/get_player" type="application/x-shockwave-flash"width="320" height="266" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"flashvars="flvurl=http://v7.nonxt6.googlevideo.com/videoplayback?id%3D2a2e7b94f3509388%26itag%3D5%26app%3Dblogger%26ip%3D0.0.0.0%26ipbits%3D0%26expire%3D1330310145%26sparams%3Did,itag,ip,ipbits,expire%26signature%3D6F348F010513BFC968C0D13F0CA9BEC25F114CEC.3E014C0A42B26F71199E94F91F5EF85A302A1C81%26key%3Dck1&amp;iurl=http://video.google.com/ThumbnailServer2?app%3Dblogger%26contentid%3D2a2e7b94f3509388%26offsetms%3D5000%26itag%3Dw160%26sigh%3DUd7R82yvUk1QNn9c_fFrfU_AjDw&amp;autoplay=0&amp;ps=blogger"allowFullScreen="true" /&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here he is rockin’ out nine years earlier (1979) at Greenbelt.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object width="320" height="266" class="BLOG_video_class" id="BLOG_video-2a4ebcdfb93164f1" classid="clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000" codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=6,0,40,0"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/get_player"&gt;&lt;param name="bgcolor" value="#FFFFFF"&gt;&lt;param name="allowfullscreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="flashvars" value="flvurl=http://v5.nonxt3.googlevideo.com/videoplayback?id%3D2a4ebcdfb93164f1%26itag%3D5%26app%3Dblogger%26ip%3D0.0.0.0%26ipbits%3D0%26expire%3D1330310145%26sparams%3Did,itag,ip,ipbits,expire%26signature%3D117E40E05179A8DBD330C7A798C8BC97DC2C56CD.78717F33895DC5441C176A74E09AEBB8779DBC47%26key%3Dck1&amp;amp;iurl=http://video.google.com/ThumbnailServer2?app%3Dblogger%26contentid%3D2a4ebcdfb93164f1%26offsetms%3D5000%26itag%3Dw160%26sigh%3DF63TIO4tLHv4ctZHQ1YpbrnVnWE&amp;amp;autoplay=0&amp;amp;ps=blogger"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/get_player" type="application/x-shockwave-flash"width="320" height="266" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"flashvars="flvurl=http://v5.nonxt3.googlevideo.com/videoplayback?id%3D2a4ebcdfb93164f1%26itag%3D5%26app%3Dblogger%26ip%3D0.0.0.0%26ipbits%3D0%26expire%3D1330310145%26sparams%3Did,itag,ip,ipbits,expire%26signature%3D117E40E05179A8DBD330C7A798C8BC97DC2C56CD.78717F33895DC5441C176A74E09AEBB8779DBC47%26key%3Dck1&amp;iurl=http://video.google.com/ThumbnailServer2?app%3Dblogger%26contentid%3D2a4ebcdfb93164f1%26offsetms%3D5000%26itag%3Dw160%26sigh%3DF63TIO4tLHv4ctZHQ1YpbrnVnWE&amp;autoplay=0&amp;ps=blogger"allowFullScreen="true" /&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I got to see him only once, in 1990 in Yale’s Battel’s Chapel.  He had recently become a dad, as I recall, and he kept in the pocket of his jeans  a tiny little baby's shoe.  Sadly, like most of us, Larry was a complicated, mixed-bag of a human being. He was, I am told, bi-polar and he had great difficulties with relationships.  His rocky relationship with Randy Stonehill is legendary.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Larry’s marriage (or marriages; I think he was married twice) didn’t last.  But he soldiered on, through personal trials of various and sundry sorts and through bouts with demons that haunted him throughout his life.    He died one month ago (I just learned yesterday) from a weak heart.   It had failed him many times in the past.  Last month it failed him for the last time.  He was 61.  What better song to end this post with, then this one, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Goodbye Farewell&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object width="320" height="266" class="BLOG_video_class" id="BLOG_video-48446fdac434dd82" classid="clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000" codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=6,0,40,0"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/get_player"&gt;&lt;param name="bgcolor" value="#FFFFFF"&gt;&lt;param name="allowfullscreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="flashvars" value="flvurl=http://v20.nonxt7.googlevideo.com/videoplayback?id%3D48446fdac434dd82%26itag%3D5%26app%3Dblogger%26ip%3D0.0.0.0%26ipbits%3D0%26expire%3D1330310145%26sparams%3Did,itag,ip,ipbits,expire%26signature%3D294F3024D471FEE09554958B0FC6E9FC87DCAC0F.3988ECD2E1E8C8CCFF86CBB730C1F80622BF556%26key%3Dck1&amp;amp;iurl=http://video.google.com/ThumbnailServer2?app%3Dblogger%26contentid%3D48446fdac434dd82%26offsetms%3D5000%26itag%3Dw160%26sigh%3Dw33VZJqqDNNQFkaaXXTiGJbY22c&amp;amp;autoplay=0&amp;amp;ps=blogger"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/get_player" type="application/x-shockwave-flash"width="320" height="266" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"flashvars="flvurl=http://v20.nonxt7.googlevideo.com/videoplayback?id%3D48446fdac434dd82%26itag%3D5%26app%3Dblogger%26ip%3D0.0.0.0%26ipbits%3D0%26expire%3D1330310145%26sparams%3Did,itag,ip,ipbits,expire%26signature%3D294F3024D471FEE09554958B0FC6E9FC87DCAC0F.3988ECD2E1E8C8CCFF86CBB730C1F80622BF556%26key%3Dck1&amp;iurl=http://video.google.com/ThumbnailServer2?app%3Dblogger%26contentid%3D48446fdac434dd82%26offsetms%3D5000%26itag%3Dw160%26sigh%3Dw33VZJqqDNNQFkaaXXTiGJbY22c&amp;autoplay=0&amp;ps=blogger"allowFullScreen="true" /&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1054707203818412735-6656445538470077878?l=holyskinandbone.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='enclosure' type='video/mp4' href='http://www.blogger.com/video-play.mp4?contentId=48446fdac434dd82&amp;type=video%2Fmp4' length='0'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/feeds/6656445538470077878/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1054707203818412735&amp;postID=6656445538470077878' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/6656445538470077878'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/6656445538470077878'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/2008/03/momma-killed-chicken-she-thought-it-was.html' title='Momma Killed a Chicken She Thought it Was a Duck'/><author><name>Kevin Corcoran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17422789329481787215</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_UIcUp4yfmZw/SdzPy_tbHJI/AAAAAAAAAEY/uGtJ6uwPXhs/S220/dad+2+at+Birds+Nest_1.JPG'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1054707203818412735.post-4027561841359757455</id><published>2008-03-26T09:08:00.007-04:00</published><updated>2008-04-06T09:34:07.979-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='religious pluralism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='politics'/><title type='text'>Is the God of Christians the God of Muslims Too?</title><content type='html'>Back in November and in response to a letter by some 100 Muslim leaders, the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;New York Times&lt;/span&gt; published a &lt;a href="http://www.yale.edu/faith/abou-commonword.htm"&gt;letter&lt;/a&gt; drafted by the Center for Faith and Culture at Yale Divinity School, and signed by 100+ Christian signatores.  The letter called for Christian cooperation with Muslims.  Among the signatores of that letter was the President of Wheaton College and other school officials.  Well, it’s now being &lt;a href="http://www.journalnow.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=WSJ%2FMGArticle%2FWSJ_BasicArticle&amp;amp;c=MGArticle&amp;amp;cid=1173354626908&amp;amp;path=%21living%21religion%21sub%21article&amp;amp;s=1037645509089"&gt;reported&lt;/a&gt; that Wheaton’s president and the other Wheaton officials have removed their names from the letter.  I’m interested in the reasons offered by the President for removing his name.  Here’s what he says:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(51, 102, 255);"&gt;“The statement was not carefully enough crafted to avoid encouraging that basic premise of civil religion; i.e., that we are all worshipping the same God,” Litfin said. “As a matter of principle over the years, I have made it a point to avoid becoming complicit in this cultural premise, denying as it does the unique claims of Christ.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Huh? The God of Christians is the God of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and Jesus.  The God of Muslims is the God of Abraham.  Seems to me Christians, Jews and Muslims do in fact worship the same God. Now depending on which of these monotheistic faiths you embrace will determine which of them you believe either has some false beliefs about that God, too few true beliefs about that God or just too many beliefs about that God.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That Christians and Muslims have throughout history taken themselves to be worshipping the same God is evidenced in Thomas Aquinas’ &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Summa Contra Gentiles&lt;/span&gt;, where he attempts to refute the beliefs of a prominent Muslim philosopher, Averose; but Thomas’ refutation doesn’t proceed by simply pointing out that Averose is in fact speaking of a &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;different&lt;/span&gt; God.  QED.  No, he proceeds by trying to show that what Averose says about &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;God&lt;/span&gt; is false.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Suppose you and I are discussing Tom Cruise.  We discuss his marriage to what’s her name (&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;what’s her name?&lt;/span&gt;.....right, Katie Holmes…had to google that one), we discuss his commitment to scientology, his role in the spectacularly gripping film &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Magnolia&lt;/span&gt;, and his early performance in &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Ferris Bueller’s Day Off&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Who is it we’re talking about?  Who is it we’re referring to in our discussion? We’re talking about or referring to Tom Cruise, of course.   But, suppose I point that Tom Cruise was &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;not&lt;/span&gt; in &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Ferris Bueller’s Day Off&lt;/span&gt;.  And suppose you insist he was and that you really enjoyed him in that film.   Seems to me we are in fact talking about and referring to Tom Cruise but you have at least one false belief about him.  You believe he was in &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;FBDO&lt;/span&gt;.  You’re mistaken, however, because it was Matthew Broderick who starred in &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;FBDO&lt;/span&gt;, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;not&lt;/span&gt; Tom Cruise.  But notice: it’s not Matthew Broderick that we’re talking about, it’s Tom Cruise we’re talking about.  And you are attributing to Tom Cruise something that’s not true of him.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Likewise, the fact that Christians, Jews and Muslims say different things about God does not entail that it is different gods about whom they say things.  President Litfin is mistaken if he thinks that from the fact that Christians and Muslims have different beliefs about God it follows that they worship different gods.  And for the life of me I can’t understand why he would think that acknowledging that Christians and Muslims worship the same God is to deny the unique claims of Christ.  It isn’t.  I believe that God was in Christ reconciling the world to himself.  Muslims don’t.  I think they’re mistaken.  They think I’m mistaken.  How is this disagreement logically connected to the claim that we worship the same God?  It’s not.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let me go out on a limb here and make a conjecture.  I conjecture that what really happened is that the President caved under pressure from Wheaton’s contributors. I bet that big dollars were threatened to be pulled if his name and the names of the other Wheaton officials did not come off that letter.  If he in fact succumbed to such pressures or even felt such pressure, I’d like to know.  At the very least, let’s be clear about this:  no one must deny the unique claims of Christ by acknowledging that Christians, Jews and Muslims worship the same God.  To think otherwise is to be ignorant both of history and of logic.  I think we should expect better from a Christian college president.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1054707203818412735-4027561841359757455?l=holyskinandbone.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/feeds/4027561841359757455/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1054707203818412735&amp;postID=4027561841359757455' title='12 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/4027561841359757455'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/4027561841359757455'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/2008/03/is-god-of-christians-god-of-muslims-too.html' title='Is the God of Christians the God of Muslims Too?'/><author><name>Kevin Corcoran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17422789329481787215</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_UIcUp4yfmZw/SdzPy_tbHJI/AAAAAAAAAEY/uGtJ6uwPXhs/S220/dad+2+at+Birds+Nest_1.JPG'/></author><thr:total>12</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1054707203818412735.post-5371784362197890464</id><published>2008-03-23T08:37:00.002-04:00</published><updated>2008-04-06T09:34:29.083-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='poetry'/><title type='text'>New Day</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;Whale Spasms Forth Frail Human&lt;br /&gt;onto Stony Shore&lt;br /&gt;Yesterday.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Bone on Stone Exiting&lt;br /&gt;Crushed. Pulverized.&lt;br /&gt;Earth Contracts&lt;br /&gt;Onto Moist Spring Soil&lt;br /&gt;Bursts Forth Heaven Born. Again. Flesh Intact.&lt;br /&gt;Death Shrinks.&lt;br /&gt;Sorrow Flees.&lt;br /&gt;It’s a New Day.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1054707203818412735-5371784362197890464?l=holyskinandbone.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/feeds/5371784362197890464/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1054707203818412735&amp;postID=5371784362197890464' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/5371784362197890464'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/5371784362197890464'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/2008/03/new-day.html' title='New Day'/><author><name>Kevin Corcoran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17422789329481787215</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_UIcUp4yfmZw/SdzPy_tbHJI/AAAAAAAAAEY/uGtJ6uwPXhs/S220/dad+2+at+Birds+Nest_1.JPG'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1054707203818412735.post-1162550477660103056</id><published>2008-03-22T08:14:00.012-04:00</published><updated>2008-04-06T09:35:11.928-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='easter'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='bible'/><title type='text'>The Day Not Mentioned</title><content type='html'>Today is Holy Saturday.  The day not mentioned in any of the Gospels.  There are the moving and distressing events of Friday.  They get recorded.  And there is the glorious event of Sunday.  It gets recorded.  But there is no mention of Saturday. Strange.  What were the disciples doing on Saturday?  We’re not told.   I suspect that they were wandering around in shock, as if in a fog.  Dreams crushed.  Hopes dashed.  A world ended.  I imagine them enveloped in fear, sadness and sorrow.  I suspect them confused, accused, feeling misused.  The cacophonous noises of Friday now gone.  The joyous shouts of Sunday not yet audible. It’s Saturday.  A soundless, noiseless silent space.   Such spaces are spaces of opportunity.  Opportunities for encounter with God.  A God who more often works in the hidden places than in the glare of spotlight.  A God who more often whispers in the still silences than shouts in the clamor of bluster.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Saturday.  &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Holy&lt;/span&gt; Saturday.  A day whose emptiness stands in stark contrast to Friday, with its ample furnishings of pain and terror, and to Sunday, with its abundant overflow of joy and gladness.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here is a poem befitting this day, this season; befitting disciples, past and present—mixed-up, perplexed, strung out, confused.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Far between sundown's finish an' midnight's broken toll&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We ducked inside the doorway, thunder crashing&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As majestic bells of bolts struck shadows in the sounds&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Seeming to be the chimes of freedom flashing&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Flashing for the warriors whose strength is not to fight&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Flashing for the refugees on the unarmed road of flight&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;An' for each an' ev'ry underdog soldier in the night&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;An' we gazed upon the chimes of freedom flashing.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;In the city's melted furnace, unexpectedly we watched&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;With faces hidden while the walls were tightening&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As the echo of the wedding bells before the blowin' rain&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Dissolved into the bells of the lightning&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Tolling for the rebel, tolling for the rake&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Tolling for the luckless, the abandoned an' forsaked&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Tolling for the outcast, burnin' constantly at stake&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;An' we gazed upon the chimes of freedom flashing.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Through the mad mystic hammering of the wild ripping hail&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The sky cracked its poems in naked wonder&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That the clinging of the church bells blew far into the breeze&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Leaving only bells of lightning and its thunder&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Striking for the gentle, striking for the kind&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Striking for the guardians and protectors of the mind&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;An' the unpawned painter behind beyond his rightful time&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;An' we gazed upon the chimes of freedom flashing.&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Through the wild cathedral evening the rain unraveled tales&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For the disrobed faceless forms of no position&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Tolling for the tongues with no place to bring their thoughts&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;All down in taken-for-granted situations&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Tolling for the deaf an' blind, tolling for the mute&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Tolling for the mistreated, mateless mother, the mistitled prostitute&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;For the misdemeanor outlaw, chased an' cheated by pursuit&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;An' we gazed upon the chimes of freedom flashing.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Even though a cloud's white curtain in a far-off corner flashed&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;An' the hypnotic splattered mist was slowly lifting&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Electric light still struck like arrows, fired but for the ones&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Condemned to drift or else be kept from drifting&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Tolling for the searching ones, on their speechless, seeking trail&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For the lonesome-hearted lovers with too personal a tale&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;An' for each unharmful, gentle soul misplaced inside a jail&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;An' we gazed upon the chimes of freedom flashing.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Starry-eyed an' laughing as I recall when we were caught&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Trapped by no track of hours for they hanged suspended&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;As we listened one last time an' we watched with one last look&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Spellbound an' swallowed 'til the tolling ended&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Tolling for the aching ones whose wounds cannot be nursed&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For the countless confused, accused, misused, strung-out ones an' worse&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;An' for every hung-up person in the whole wide universe&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;An' we gazed upon the chimes of freedom flashing.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That’s Bob Dylan’s &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Chimes of Freedom&lt;/span&gt;, sent to me by Keith DeRose. Unlike Keith, who wisely makes the listening of that song part of his Good Friday, Lenten practice, I hadn’t read those words in a long time. I am so glad he reminded me of them today.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There's another poem I'd love to share with you, too.  A stark, forbidding, spartan poem sent to me yesterday by Lori Wilson.  It was written by Kester Brewin.  Sadly, Kester removed that poem from his website before I could copy it.  I've asked him to send it to me.  If and when he does, I will post it immediately.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It's Saturday.  But Sunday's comin'!!!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[The following Good Friday poem by &lt;a href="http://thecomplexchrist.typepad.com/about.html"&gt;Kester Brewin&lt;/a&gt;; Added Easter afternoon.]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Modern/postmodern, epistemology&lt;br /&gt;and philosophy,&lt;br /&gt;arguments about text,&lt;br /&gt;all distant hazes in the cortex&lt;br /&gt;as this one true sensation&lt;br /&gt;becomes all reality:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;the pain of metal against bone&lt;br /&gt;and blood and bitter wine;&lt;br /&gt;hung in agonizing mezzanine:&lt;br /&gt;Father above, who sent&lt;br /&gt;and created earth below who received,&lt;br /&gt;both now turning in rejection,&lt;br /&gt;aiming their crude technologies.&lt;br /&gt;Pig iron and sacrifice.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is blood.&lt;br /&gt;I am finished.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1054707203818412735-1162550477660103056?l=holyskinandbone.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/feeds/1162550477660103056/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1054707203818412735&amp;postID=1162550477660103056' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/1162550477660103056'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/1162550477660103056'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/2008/03/day-not-mentioned.html' title='The Day Not Mentioned'/><author><name>Kevin Corcoran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17422789329481787215</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_UIcUp4yfmZw/SdzPy_tbHJI/AAAAAAAAAEY/uGtJ6uwPXhs/S220/dad+2+at+Birds+Nest_1.JPG'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1054707203818412735.post-444335777602674115</id><published>2008-03-21T08:48:00.007-04:00</published><updated>2008-04-06T09:35:38.951-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='politics'/><title type='text'>BAraCK To The Future?</title><content type='html'>Earlier this week Barack Obama delivered what had to be the most important &lt;a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/18/obamao-race-read-t_n_92077.html"&gt;speech&lt;/a&gt; of his campaign and perhaps his life.  He delivered it against the backdrop both of the Jeremiah Wright (his pastor) &lt;a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=VUbUBTImAiA"&gt;Youtube&lt;/a&gt; feeding frenzy and the surprisingly uncomfortable issue of race that persists as a politically divisive feature of american life.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There’s a lot I have to say about this speech and the polarized American political context in which it is situated.  But I made a vow shortly after I began this blog to limit my posts to 1000 words.  So, all I have to say about the speech won’t get said, at least not here.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let me begin with Jeremiah Wright.  Jeremiah Wright appears to be to a certain segment of the black community (and the black church community) what Jerry Falwell was and what Pat Robertson, James Dobson and others of their ilk (including the “pisseth against the wall” pastor) still are to a certain segment of the white community (and the white church community).   Social and political polarizers are what they in fact are, but to their respective communities they are regarded as guardians of the truth and liberators of the marginalized.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you are a member of the relevant segment of the white community, then the language of Wright is likely to strike you as anti-american, hate mongering, Farrakhan courting and dangerous.  And there’s no doubt about it, Wright believes America is wrong, racist and evil.  If you are a member of the relevant black community (or gay community or feminst community), then the language of Falwell, Robertson and Dobson is likely to strike you in just the way Wright’s language strikes the relevant segment of the white community.  It will strike you as dangerously wrong, racist (or sexist) and evil.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One point perhaps more than any other that has been systematically overlooked in all the coverage that has followed on the heels of Obama’s speech, and the Wright vitriol on graphic display at youtube, is that an analogous sort of hate-mongering anti-american rhetoric to that of Wright's has been widely used in the past by Falwell, Dobson and other polarizers on the far right.   Am I wrong to remember that some on the other side of the political spectrum of Wright have advocated that God RIGHTLY hates America and has given us 9/11 and Aids as punishment?  Am I wrong to remember that some of the very individuals who spewed their gospel of bondage to hate and fear during the 80’s and 90’s were not only welcome in America but were even the invited guests of presidents at White House functions? Am I wrong about that?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My point here is simple: hate is an equal opportunity employer and how you hear the words of Wright or Dobson all depends on which pew in which church on which Sunday morning you find yourself sitting. Now for the record, from the pew on which I sit on Sunday mornings, I hear Wright’s rhetoric as all the things the relevant segment of the white community hears it as.  And from that same pew, I also hear the rhetoric of Falwell, Robertson and Dobson as all the things blacks and gays hear it as. And that probably says a lot about my being a white, liberally educated, middle class man.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Well, anyway, MS Word informs me that I have just spent more than half of my 1000 word allowance .  Perhaps I’ve spent enough on one post. Plus, I feel I have little to add to what has already been said i&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;n praise &lt;/span&gt;of Obama’s speech (it was spellbinding and moving, not mention honest, in ways few political speeches are these days).  But I really did want to address two other issues related to the speech, i.e., the comparison by Obama of his relation to Wright to that of his white grand mother.  The other issue I wanted to comment on is how someone could possibly remain in a congregation whose pastor preached sermons with which the member him or herself claims to disagree most vehemently.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But I’m going to leave that for another time and another place.  I feel an overwhelming desire right now to head over to the Department of Secretary to do what I have been saying I would do for the past 8 years—change my party affiliation from Democrat to Independent.  Because while the vision Obama has for this country is a vision that resonates with many of my deepest Christian commitments, I recognize that given the current political configuration there’s not a lot of on-the-ground change that will occur under an Obama administration.  Then again, even if all he was able to accomplish was to restore to this country and to the presidency an image worthy of respect both here and around the world, that would be enough for me.  So based on what I know now, I say, BAraCK to the future!!!!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But I say that with my eyes wide open. Eyes open to the fact that the kingdom of God--the only nation to which I will unreservedly and unconditionally pledge my allegiance, a nation without borders by the way--is a kingdom that will not be realized by any political party.  And it won't be accessible for your 24-7 viewing pleasure at youtube either.  No, I'm afraid you'll have to go instead to those small corners of our world and communities where that kingdom is lived and anticipated in all the invisibility of the ordinary. You'll have to cultivate different viewing habits if you hope to see it.  But it is there.   I've seen it.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1054707203818412735-444335777602674115?l=holyskinandbone.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/feeds/444335777602674115/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1054707203818412735&amp;postID=444335777602674115' title='11 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/444335777602674115'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/444335777602674115'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/2008/03/barack-to-future.html' title='BAraCK To The Future?'/><author><name>Kevin Corcoran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17422789329481787215</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_UIcUp4yfmZw/SdzPy_tbHJI/AAAAAAAAAEY/uGtJ6uwPXhs/S220/dad+2+at+Birds+Nest_1.JPG'/></author><thr:total>11</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1054707203818412735.post-2641958348817975906</id><published>2008-03-19T11:47:00.003-04:00</published><updated>2008-04-06T09:36:15.685-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='evolution'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='science'/><title type='text'>Telling Stories</title><content type='html'>The following is attributed to Archbishop Rowan Williams in a talk on theology and science delivered last night (I think).  I am attempting to confirm this attribution by someone I know who I believe was at the talk last night.  Here's the quote:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 102, 255);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Both Neo Darwinism and Christianity are telling stories.  Christianity acknowledges that fact, Neo Darwinism doesn't.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;By Neo Darwinism the AB has in his sites the likes of Dawkins, Hitchins and Dennet.  There's something right about what the AB says (if in fact he said it) and yet something not quite right, too.  Dawkins is a very good scientist and when he's talking science, he's not telling stories. He's offering compelling scientific explanations of natural phenomena. It's when he stops doing science and begins to say silly things that have nothing to do with science &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;and he fails to notice that he has ceased doing science&lt;/span&gt; that he is indeed telling stories &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;and&lt;/span&gt; indeed fails to acknowledge it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Christianity is a comprehensive story.  It's not, I think, nor does it purport to be, a naturalistic explanation of things.  Which is not to say that it's not an explanation of sorts.  But it is surely a grand story and acknoweldges as much.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That's my take anyway.  Yours?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1054707203818412735-2641958348817975906?l=holyskinandbone.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/feeds/2641958348817975906/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1054707203818412735&amp;postID=2641958348817975906' title='5 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/2641958348817975906'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/2641958348817975906'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/2008/03/telling-stories.html' title='Telling Stories'/><author><name>Kevin Corcoran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17422789329481787215</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_UIcUp4yfmZw/SdzPy_tbHJI/AAAAAAAAAEY/uGtJ6uwPXhs/S220/dad+2+at+Birds+Nest_1.JPG'/></author><thr:total>5</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1054707203818412735.post-6289264130981468742</id><published>2008-03-18T08:40:00.003-04:00</published><updated>2008-04-06T09:36:43.391-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='evolution'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='science'/><title type='text'>The Atheist Delusion?</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The attempt to eradicate religion, however, only leads to it reappearing in grotesque     and degraded forms. A credulous belief in world revolution, universal democracy or     the occult powers of mobile phones is more offensive to reason than the mysteries of    religion, and less likely to survive in years to come. Victorian poet Matthew Arnold       wrote of believers being left bereft as the tide of faith ebbs away. Today secular faith    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;is ebbing, and it is the apostles of unbelief who are left stranded on the beach.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;That from a recent &lt;a href="http://books.guardian.co.uk/departments/politicsphilosophyandsociety/story/0,,2265446,00.html"&gt;article&lt;/a&gt; in London's &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Guardian&lt;/span&gt; by John Gray which is sure to be of interest to readers of this blog.  Gray argues in some detail for a point I tried to make here in&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt; Is Religious Identity the Enemy of Global Harmony?&lt;/span&gt;  He takes on Dawkins, Dennet, Hitchens and the religious despisers of our day and shows pretty convincingly how they both live off the capital of religious history and embody some of the worst&lt;br /&gt;features of fundamentalist forms of Christianity and Islam, in particular.  My favorite lines from the article are these:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Religion has not gone away. Repressing it is like repressing sex, a self-defeating enterprise. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Definitely worth a read.  And I'd be interested to know what you make of it.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1054707203818412735-6289264130981468742?l=holyskinandbone.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/feeds/6289264130981468742/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1054707203818412735&amp;postID=6289264130981468742' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/6289264130981468742'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/6289264130981468742'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/2008/03/atheist-delusion.html' title='The Atheist Delusion?'/><author><name>Kevin Corcoran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17422789329481787215</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_UIcUp4yfmZw/SdzPy_tbHJI/AAAAAAAAAEY/uGtJ6uwPXhs/S220/dad+2+at+Birds+Nest_1.JPG'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1054707203818412735.post-2929171422971695514</id><published>2008-03-16T16:23:00.004-04:00</published><updated>2008-04-06T09:37:06.946-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='evolution'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='science'/><title type='text'>Honest When You’re Telling a Lie*</title><content type='html'>Over at &lt;a href="http://sfmatheson.blogspot.com/2008/03/hugh-ross-shocking-fairy-tale.html"&gt;Quintessence of Dust&lt;/a&gt;, my good friend Steve Matheson has posted an excellent piece on an outfit called &lt;a href="http://www.reasons.org/"&gt;“Reasons to Believe”&lt;/a&gt; and one of its spokesman, a guy named Hugh Ross.  Now, for the record, I had never heard of RtB or Hugh Ross before Steve brought them to my attention some time ago now. What I like about this post of Steve’s, and about his response to a comment by someone called ‘jsbangs’ and about Steve’s entire blog is the care he takes to sort out issues, make useful and helpful distinctions and set the record straight about the biology and science often at issue in debates about faith and science.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In this particular post, Steve takes Hugh Ross to task for peddling what is fairly obviously misinformation and outright falsehoods.  What I’m interested in, however, is something Steve and I have often discussed with respect to RtB; namely, when HR makes statements like this&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;The assumption that the non-protein-coding part of the genome served no purpose     caused researchers to abandon study of its features for nearly three decades. Then a     team of physicists made an observation that revived interest. They noticed that the         quantity of "junk" in a species' genome was proportional to that species' degree of         advancement.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;is he lying? What he says is &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;false&lt;/span&gt;.  But Steve recognizes the difference between &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;saying something false&lt;/span&gt; and &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;lying&lt;/span&gt;. And he thinks HR is lying.  But is he?  I have my doubts.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When someone lies they intentionally communicate a falsehood with the intention to deceive their listener. Communicating a falsehood and intending to deceive one’s listener though &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;necessary&lt;/span&gt; for lying are not sufficient.  If they were sufficient for lying, then actors &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;qua&lt;/span&gt; actors would be lying every time they take the stage or go before the camera.  So too all who play poker and have ever &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;bluffed&lt;/span&gt; and all those who have ever played basketball and &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;pump faked&lt;/span&gt; their defender and then driven to the basket.  So, you’re not lying &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;unless&lt;/span&gt; you communicate a falsehood with the intent to deceive, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;but&lt;/span&gt; communicating falsehood and intending to deceive are not enough to make what you communicate a lie.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I’m interested in this HR character and his outfit RtB which, as best I can tell, are guilty of perpetuating falsehoods in their apologetic endeavor to defend the rational integrity of theism.  There’s no doubt they are purveyors of falsehoods.  But is HR, in Steve’s words, guilty of an “outrageous lie”? Is he guilty of “outright fabrication”?  Fabrication maybe. Lying?  I'm not so sure.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lying is morally blameworthy. HR is culpable too it seems.  But not for lying.  He is to be blamed for carelessness in research, misunderstanding, misattributing, misstating and misrepresenting facts, not to mention for making stuff up.  But I don’t think Ross is lying.  I think he’d need to be first of all a &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;biologist&lt;/span&gt; and second of all a &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;competent&lt;/span&gt; biologist. A quick glance at his &lt;a href="http://www.reason.org/about/staff/ross.shtml"&gt;website&lt;/a&gt; reveals that he is neither.  His BA is in physics and his MA and Ph.D. are both in Astronomy.  So what's going on in the case of HR and RtB?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here’s what I think is going on. I think the apologetic agenda of RtB partly accounts for what HR “finds” in his research.  And when something he regards as especially advantageous to furthering the cause of RtB is “found” (like the non-coding DNA elements Steve mentions in his post) HR’s enthusiasm gets the better of him and leads him to say such wildly implausible things as that a “veritable frenzy of research” (which is false) followed on the heels of a discovery by a “team of physicists” (false and false—that the team was a team of physicists is false and that there was the putative discovery is false).  But those claims, though false, do not amount to lies I think.  They amount to something for which HR and RtB are morally blameworthy (such as those things I mention in the paragraph above), but not lying.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What do you think?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;*I take this title from the lyrics of Wilco's &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Misunderstood, &lt;/span&gt;a great song off a great album (&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Being There)&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1054707203818412735-2929171422971695514?l=holyskinandbone.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/feeds/2929171422971695514/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1054707203818412735&amp;postID=2929171422971695514' title='31 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/2929171422971695514'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/2929171422971695514'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/2008/03/honest-when-youre-telling-lie.html' title='Honest When You’re Telling a Lie*'/><author><name>Kevin Corcoran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17422789329481787215</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_UIcUp4yfmZw/SdzPy_tbHJI/AAAAAAAAAEY/uGtJ6uwPXhs/S220/dad+2+at+Birds+Nest_1.JPG'/></author><thr:total>31</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1054707203818412735.post-625009525543046655</id><published>2008-03-10T19:43:00.004-04:00</published><updated>2008-04-06T09:37:44.251-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='religious pluralism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='politics'/><title type='text'>Is Religious Identity the Enemy of Global Harmony?</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;An American generation under 45 has glimpsed an interconnected world beyond race and tribe. They know its attainment will be elusive but, after a bleak season, they feel summoned by what Lincoln called “the better angels of our nature.” And, speaking of experience, they know Lincoln came to the presidency with all of two years in Congress behind him, and a failed Senate campaign.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Those are the words of Roger Cohen in a NY Times Op-Ed piece today titled &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Tribalism Here and There&lt;/span&gt;.  Cohen’s editorial, a sort of pro Obama piece that looks at the rise of tribalisms in the context of globalization, makes what I think are some very important points.  Against those whose wide-eyed optimism links globalization with a safer, more connected world, Cohen notes:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Connection and fragmentation vie. The Internet opens worlds and minds, but also offers opinions to reinforce every prejudice. You’re never alone out there; some idiot will always back you. The online world doesn’t dissolve tribes. It gives them global reach.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What I found most interesting, however, was this remark:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The main forces in the world today are the modernizing, barrier-breaking sweep of globalization and the tribal reaction to it, which lies in the assertion of religious, national, linguistic, racial or ethnic identity against the unifying technological tide.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Only the worst sort of denial can fail to notice that tribalism, rooted in religious identity, has been the source of terrible intolerance and responsible for inflicting upon humanity scores of horrendous human atrocities.  So familiar are we with religiously inspired violence that I see no need to parade before us the usual cast of examples.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;However, I think it has become increasingly clear that evil and ugliness perpetrated against humanity is not the special inclination of those with religious identities. The killing fields, the Soviet pogrom, the rape of Nanking, the revolution in China and the world wars should all be sufficient to dispel the myth that somehow secularists are impervious to intolerance and evil.  I think it was Anthony Appiah who once sagaciously noted that we human beings as such seem naturally impatient for harmony.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Though no doubt there are historical connections between religious identity and crimes against humanity, those connections are contingent, I would argue, and the solution to tribalism does not reside in ridding the world of religion or religious identity.  Well, that's also what what I would argue. There have been and can be religious identities, i.e., communities with deep religious identity, without tribalism.  Indeed if I had the time I would argue that the resources necessary for tolerance and a valuation of pluralism—e.g., an account of human beings as possessing &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;inestimable&lt;/span&gt; and &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;intrinsic&lt;/span&gt; worth, a recognition of human beings as thoroughly &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;finite&lt;/span&gt;, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;frail&lt;/span&gt; and &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;fallible&lt;/span&gt;, and an account of human beings as &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;free&lt;/span&gt;—are actually to be found (perhaps surprisingly if you listen to the story told by the secularists) in theistic religions.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, to Mr. Cohen I say this:  while I agree that tribalism is no friend to universal harmony, ridding the world of religious identities would not a harmonious world make. And maybe, Mr. Cohen, just maybe, religion holds a key to the sort of universal harmony many of us—both secular and religious—long to see realized.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1054707203818412735-625009525543046655?l=holyskinandbone.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/feeds/625009525543046655/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1054707203818412735&amp;postID=625009525543046655' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/625009525543046655'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/625009525543046655'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/2008/03/is-religious-identity-enemy-of-global.html' title='Is Religious Identity the Enemy of Global Harmony?'/><author><name>Kevin Corcoran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17422789329481787215</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_UIcUp4yfmZw/SdzPy_tbHJI/AAAAAAAAAEY/uGtJ6uwPXhs/S220/dad+2+at+Birds+Nest_1.JPG'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1054707203818412735.post-4883115019026765471</id><published>2008-03-08T22:02:00.003-05:00</published><updated>2008-04-06T09:38:06.436-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='China'/><title type='text'>Greetings from Beijing</title><content type='html'>Greetings from Beijing!! This post comes to you via email and my good friend Steve Matheson.  It seems blogs originating from home are inaccessible here.  So, I have been unable to read or post anything.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Our days have been full since arriving on Wednesday.  So far Rowan has taken in the Forbidden City and Tiananmen Square; together we have visited the Temple of Heaven and the Great Wall.  Our trip to the latter wore poor Rowan out, as he came back and slept for fourteen straight hours.  After quite an ascent up the mountain and to the wall, Rowan was found to be in need of relief, and with no WC to be found…  well…you guessed it…he was forced to &lt;em&gt;pisseth&lt;/em&gt; against the wall, &lt;em&gt;the Great Wall&lt;/em&gt;.  I conjecture that his not yet being a man is to account for his continued presence among the living.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As you make your way up the lower part of the mountain toward nearly any segment of the Great Wall you are greeted by eager natives hawking their wares, which consist mostly of fake antiques, t-shirts and a variety of other souvenirs. Rowan had his eye on a sword and a couple of small lion figures.  I had my eye on a small Chinese painting. So, on the way back down I girded my loins and readied myself to haggle.  The sword was being offered at 620 RMB, which is roughly $88.  It was a nice sword, but…um….me thinks they wanted to screw us. So, sensing that they smelled blood galvanized me into uber-bargaining action.  I offered 30 RMB for the sword.  You read that right, &lt;em&gt;30&lt;/em&gt; RMB.  The ladies selling it looked at me and giggled like school girls.  500 they wrote down on a piece of paper.  No way; 50, I wrote down.  This was greeted w/more snickers and noises I could only interpret as “foolish american, are you crazy?”  420, they wrote.  60, I wrote.  Nothing doing.  I started walking away.  The two of them chased me several paces.  They tugged and pulled on my sleeves.  I said “boi yow”, which means “I don’t want”.  180 they wrote, desperation now evident in the noises emanating from their mouths.  70, I wrote.  160, they wrote.  I walked.   They chased again.  I wrote 75.  “Little more, little more,” one woman said.  I walked.  They chased.  “Boi yow,” I said.  “Okay, Okay.”  Hold on!  Was that English they spoke?—“Little more, little more” and “okay, okay.”  Why, yes Virginia, I do believe it was.  Hmm.  Anyway, that was the end of that.  What started out as an $88 sword ended up costing me $10 or 75 RMB.   And I am quite certain a profit was still madeth by the women.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ditto for my painting and Rowan’s lions.  Both started in the 500 RMB range. When all was said and done, the painting was had for 50 RMB ($7) and the lions for 40 ($5 and change).  It was quite an adventure and our local guides were thoroughly impressed with the deftness of my haggling skills.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The next day, while ambulating about Beijing and riding on the subway, I was struck with the following bright idea:  surely, I thought, there must be clothes to be had here that will actually fit a man—how shall we say it?—whose stature is more typical of the Irish or…well…perhaps the Chinese.  And such, if such there be I thought, would surely be more affordable here then at home.  So, inspired by my previous bargaining success and persuaded by two very kind young Chinese women (who had been spending lots of time showing Rowan, me and two other American guests around) I was taken to a mall. The women said they knew just the store that would have clothes I like.  Rowan said, “Dad, you hate malls; why are you going to a mall?”  Son, I said, there is an ancient Chinese proverb: &lt;em&gt;a purchase in China mall is like a dollar in american bank&lt;/em&gt;. So we ended up at this very large, very western-like mall where bargaining, sadly, is not practiced.  Blast!  But I must say the shopping experience was quite unlike anything in Grand Rapids. For there in front of my eyes were racks of clothes that actually fit—fit &lt;em&gt;me&lt;/em&gt;.  And—now I’m not kidding!—the “smalls” were actually &lt;em&gt;too&lt;/em&gt; small!  How different life is in China!  Anywho, what turned out to be another successful shopping spree ended (rather quickly I was told by the women who accompanied me) with the purchase of a super-cool blazer/sport-coat with a European flair for 199 RMB ($28).   I love China!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oh, have I mentioned the food?  Holy…skin and bone!  The food is fantastic, and cheap.  You can get a huge, tasty lunch for three or four dollars.  The breakfasts, on the other hand, are a bit uninspiring even for someone whose normal breakfast fare is oatmeal.  But lunch and dinner more than compensate.  And Rowan is shocking everyone by consuming the spiciest of Chinese dishes w/nary a bead of sweat evident on his forehead and all the skill with chopsticks that the old man displays in bargaining.  He did, however, let it be known that he was not very fond of the goose liver.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In a few hours (tomorrow for you) we’re going to visit the summer palace.  Then, we fly out of Beijing bright and early Monday morning, and head for Hangzhou where Monday through Thursday I offer a series of four three hour lectures at Zheijang University.  I’m very much looking forward to Hangzhou, whose weather is supposed to be a bit more pleasant then Beijing’s, which is very dry and heavy with pollution. The air so dry in fact that Rowan has settled into daily nose bleeds.  And the pollution is so bad you can actually feel your lungs burn.  It is said that breathing the air of Beijing is equivalent to smoking two packs of cigarettes a day.  I believe it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Well, I wish I could have included some pix for you, but alas I forgot the cord for the camera that’s necessary for transferring them to my computer.  (At least I didn’t forget my camera!)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When I return, look for a post on autism and personhood to greet you.  And maybe a few  pix from what has so far been an incredibly wonderful experience!  Indeed, more than the food, more than the bargains, more than anything, it is the Chinese people that impress me the most.  They are the most hospitable, most generous people of any I have met.  Their hospitality and generosity really do inspire me.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Peace to All,&lt;br /&gt;Kevin&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1054707203818412735-4883115019026765471?l=holyskinandbone.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/feeds/4883115019026765471/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1054707203818412735&amp;postID=4883115019026765471' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/4883115019026765471'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/4883115019026765471'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/2008/03/greetings-from-beijing.html' title='Greetings from Beijing'/><author><name>Kevin Corcoran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17422789329481787215</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_UIcUp4yfmZw/SdzPy_tbHJI/AAAAAAAAAEY/uGtJ6uwPXhs/S220/dad+2+at+Birds+Nest_1.JPG'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1054707203818412735.post-7484077500797012759</id><published>2008-03-01T23:12:00.016-05:00</published><updated>2008-04-06T09:39:10.901-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='China'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='religious bs'/><title type='text'>Pissing Away America (Don't worry: 'Pissing' is Biblical)</title><content type='html'>If you’re anything like me, you’ve asked yourself on more than one ocassion “What’s wrong with America?”  Well friends, it’s right there in the bible.   I know, I didn’t see it either, UNTIL NOW!  (Watch the video below in its entirety--it's only four minutes long; you won’t be disappointed...well...on second thought, you probably will be &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;deeply&lt;/span&gt;  disappointed, but not in the fact that you watched it. And yes, I’m afraid it’s not a joke.  I'm also guessing that &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;he-who-must-not-be-named&lt;/span&gt; occupied the oval office at the time this sermon was preached.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object width="324" height="325" class="BLOG_video_class" id="BLOG_video-602b3955a6bc3781" classid="clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000" codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=6,0,40,0"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/get_player"&gt;&lt;param name="bgcolor" value="#FFFFFF"&gt;&lt;param name="allowfullscreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="flashvars" value="flvurl=http://v20.nonxt3.googlevideo.com/videoplayback?id%3D602b3955a6bc3781%26itag%3D5%26app%3Dblogger%26ip%3D0.0.0.0%26ipbits%3D0%26expire%3D1330310145%26sparams%3Did,itag,ip,ipbits,expire%26signature%3D12D153F84CDF131626BBA2C291912C8E182ECC4A.3C737CCEDA5A9F62362ABB0C559E1113D39D2E35%26key%3Dck1&amp;amp;iurl=http://video.google.com/ThumbnailServer2?app%3Dblogger%26contentid%3D602b3955a6bc3781%26offsetms%3D5000%26itag%3Dw160%26sigh%3DRwiHP43TUQzv1Cqroa34C-GkLhU&amp;amp;autoplay=0&amp;amp;ps=blogger"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/get_player" type="application/x-shockwave-flash"width="324" height="325" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"flashvars="flvurl=http://v20.nonxt3.googlevideo.com/videoplayback?id%3D602b3955a6bc3781%26itag%3D5%26app%3Dblogger%26ip%3D0.0.0.0%26ipbits%3D0%26expire%3D1330310145%26sparams%3Did,itag,ip,ipbits,expire%26signature%3D12D153F84CDF131626BBA2C291912C8E182ECC4A.3C737CCEDA5A9F62362ABB0C559E1113D39D2E35%26key%3Dck1&amp;iurl=http://video.google.com/ThumbnailServer2?app%3Dblogger%26contentid%3D602b3955a6bc3781%26offsetms%3D5000%26itag%3Dw160%26sigh%3DRwiHP43TUQzv1Cqroa34C-GkLhU&amp;autoplay=0&amp;ps=blogger"allowFullScreen="true" /&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On a more serious note, things may be pretty quiet on &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Holy Skin and Bone&lt;/span&gt; over the next two weeks.  I’m heading over to China on Tuesday to deliver a lecture on &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Pluralism, Relativism and Tolerance&lt;/span&gt;, and a series of lectures on &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Dualism, Materialism and Resurrection&lt;/span&gt;.  I don’t know how accessible the internet will be while there, so, as I say, things may go quiet in these parts.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is my second trip to China, and on this occasion I am delighted to be able to be taking my ten year old son, Rowan.    Should be a lot of fun!  (BTW: is there a better job anywhere on the planet than that of an academic?  I mean, really? We may not make squat, but my-oh-my, the perks are pretty hard to beat.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And let me tell you this, my friend-- while I’m in China, '&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;you better know I’m gonna stand up everywhere I go&lt;/span&gt;. Because '&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;I’m a man, not a male&lt;/span&gt;.'  And btw, there is one &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Great Wall&lt;/span&gt; in China.  So I'm thinkin' there should be plenty of opportunity for me to directly apply this sermon and so demonstrate my manliness.  (Lord, have mercy on us all!)&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1054707203818412735-7484077500797012759?l=holyskinandbone.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='enclosure' type='video/mp4' href='http://www.blogger.com/video-play.mp4?contentId=602b3955a6bc3781&amp;type=video%2Fmp4' length='0'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/feeds/7484077500797012759/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1054707203818412735&amp;postID=7484077500797012759' title='12 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/7484077500797012759'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/7484077500797012759'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/2008/03/pissing-away-america-dont-worry-pissing.html' title='Pissing Away America (Don&apos;t worry: &lt;em&gt;&apos;Pissing&apos;&lt;/em&gt; is Biblical)'/><author><name>Kevin Corcoran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17422789329481787215</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_UIcUp4yfmZw/SdzPy_tbHJI/AAAAAAAAAEY/uGtJ6uwPXhs/S220/dad+2+at+Birds+Nest_1.JPG'/></author><thr:total>12</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1054707203818412735.post-3157597392161092335</id><published>2008-03-01T09:08:00.013-05:00</published><updated>2008-04-06T09:39:50.143-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='emergent'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='buechner'/><title type='text'>Holy Laughter and Emergent/Emerging</title><content type='html'>I have often thought that the present phenomenon of “emergent” or “emerging” does not, at bottom, have a particular demographic, that it’s not really a twenty or thirty-something thing, for example.  I have thought that there is what my friend Kurt has referred to as &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;a psychographic&lt;/span&gt; and that emerging appeals to folks with a certain socio-cultural, emotional sensibility.  The following comes from an 80 year old man.  Perhaps you’ll be able to identify the author:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Jesus says, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one cometh to the Father but by me," which, in one sense, seems to be exclusive: unless you're a Christian, you're not on the inside. You're on the outside. But Jesus doesn't say, "The religion founded in my name is the way, the truth, and the life, [and] what people say about me is the way." "Our way of worship, the Christian structure, is not the way," [he would say,] "I am. I am. If you want to know what life is all about, what it's supposed to be, where it's supposed to go, where it's supposed to derive its strength from, don't look at anything people say about me. Don't look at the faith that's been created. Look at my life, which is a life ultimately of sacrificial love."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Those are the words of Frederick Buechner, and I dare say I bet they resonate with emerging types.  When speaking of his own learning to “speak the language of faith,” Buechner, recounting a story of a mentor of his, says that Jesus is crowned king in the hearts of his beloved amid confession, tears and great laughter.  Why laughter?  Here’s Buechner:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;I think part of the laughter is the laughter of incredulity. Can it be true? Can it be true? Can it be true what they say? That there really is a God and that he was in Jesus and he loves us and forgives us and will make all things right again? That he really made the world, he loves the world, he will save the world in the long run? Can that be true? I can only laugh. Or maybe the laughter is divine relief: "Oh my God. After everything, it's true. I can only laugh. I can weep at the absurdity and beauty of its truth."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; Reminds of these words from Switchfoot:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;All will be made well, will be made well, will be made well, will be made well. Is this fiction? Is this fiction? Hope has given himself to the worst.  Is this fiction or Divine comedy? Where the last of the last shall be first.  Living is simple.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Whether it is fiction or Divine comedy I do not know.  What I do know is that at the deepest of part of my being, the story—that grand story of universal redemption, reconciliation and healing, that all will be made well—I am deeply moved, swept up and carried away.  I believe.  And it's not a choice I make, to believe.  Rather, I find between the deepest part of myself and that story a powerful resonance, and it calls forth from me, quite independent of choice, belief. It is as though something inside of me shouts: &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Yes! This is how it is.  At the bottom of everything is life and love and wholeness.&lt;/span&gt;  Is this fiction or Divine comedy?  I can only laugh.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[If you want to read the full interview from which the Buechner quotes are taken, go &lt;a href="http://www.pbs.org/wnet/religionandethics/week936/interview.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.  For the full lyrics of Living is Simple, by Switchfoot, go &lt;a href="http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/switchfoot/livingissimple.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.  My thanks to Christi Sprague for introducing me to that song at a time I really needed it, and to Tasha Golden for sending me the Buechner interview. C.S. Lewis once said, “Nothing, I suspect, is more astonishing in any man’s life than the discovery that there do exist people very, very like himself.”  To which I add only this: &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;nothing&lt;/span&gt;.]&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1054707203818412735-3157597392161092335?l=holyskinandbone.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/feeds/3157597392161092335/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1054707203818412735&amp;postID=3157597392161092335' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/3157597392161092335'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/3157597392161092335'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/2008/03/holy-laughter-and-emergentemerging.html' title='Holy Laughter and Emergent/Emerging'/><author><name>Kevin Corcoran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17422789329481787215</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_UIcUp4yfmZw/SdzPy_tbHJI/AAAAAAAAAEY/uGtJ6uwPXhs/S220/dad+2+at+Birds+Nest_1.JPG'/></author><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1054707203818412735.post-9100441312825500161</id><published>2008-02-29T08:35:00.005-05:00</published><updated>2008-04-06T09:41:35.540-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='bill buckley'/><title type='text'>My Brief but Happy Brush with Bill Buckley</title><content type='html'>This past Wednesday, William F. Buckley died.  He was 82.  Best known as a bastion of conservative thinking, he was a novelist, newspaper columnist and master &lt;a href="http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sesquipedalian"&gt;sesquipedalian&lt;/a&gt; (that’s a Buckley-like word, which I freely admit I had to look up!).   To understand the success of the Ronald Regan era, one probably needs to go back to Buckley.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My only real acquaintance with Buckley came as a result&lt;br /&gt;of stumbling upon his television show &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Firing Line&lt;/span&gt; one day&lt;br /&gt;back in the early or mid 80’s. I was flipping through the channels when I came upon him interviewing an interesting looking old man.  That old man was Malcom Muggeridge, a British journalist who had converted to Christianity late in life and to Roman Catholicism even later.  What made me stop turning the channels was nothing more than the physical appearance of Muggeridge.  But it was their conversation about Christianity that fascinated and transfixed me.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As I recall, I myself did not identify as a Christian then.  I was young, and had at the time other more fleshly interests than what struck me as the ethereal and cerebral interests of Muggeridge and Buckley.  But still I was transfixed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That was the only episode of &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Firing Line&lt;/span&gt; I ever watched, my only real and sustained brush  with Buckley.  But it turned out to have a profound effect on my own conversion, though it would only be in retrospect that I would locate it within my own Christian narrative.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And I am remembering now something Muggeridge said of conversion, something that resonated with me then and resonates with me still.  He said to Buckley, as I recall (although I could be running together in my memory that interview and one of Muggeridge’s books),&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Some, like the Apostle Paul, have a Damascus Road experience…No such experience has been vouchsafed me; I have just stumbled on, like Bunyan’s pilgrim, falling in the Slough of Despond, locked up in Doubting Castle, terrified at passing through the Valley of the Shadow of Death; from time to time, by God’s mercy, relieved of my burden of sin, but only, alas, soon to acquire it again.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Like Francis Schaeffer, there is much in Muggeridge that I passionately disagree with. For example, he seemed to me to be a kind of theological determinist, to believe that particular instances of horrific suffering and evil are part of the script God has written for the world and the particular human beings afflicted by those particular instances of horrific suffering and evil likewise God scripted. Yet also like Schaeffer, he was instrumental in my early Christian formation.  And were it not for Bill Buckley and &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Firing Line&lt;/span&gt; it seems unlikely that I would ever have come into the timely orbit of Muggeridge, and unlikely too that I would have been introduced to the likes of Simone Weil, Kierkegaard, Chesterton and others to whose work I would be introduced by Muggeridge himself.  I’m quite grateful that I was introduced to the work and thought of these folks at the time I was introduced to it.  And so I'm glad I stumbled upon Bill Buckley lo those many years ago.  Thank you, William F. Buckley, Jr.  Thank you.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1054707203818412735-9100441312825500161?l=holyskinandbone.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/feeds/9100441312825500161/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1054707203818412735&amp;postID=9100441312825500161' title='5 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/9100441312825500161'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/9100441312825500161'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/2008/02/my-brief-but-happy-brush-with-bill.html' title='My Brief but Happy Brush with Bill Buckley'/><author><name>Kevin Corcoran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17422789329481787215</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_UIcUp4yfmZw/SdzPy_tbHJI/AAAAAAAAAEY/uGtJ6uwPXhs/S220/dad+2+at+Birds+Nest_1.JPG'/></author><thr:total>5</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1054707203818412735.post-2502838062214771519</id><published>2008-02-27T14:00:00.005-05:00</published><updated>2008-04-06T09:42:07.149-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Speaking of Music</title><content type='html'>If you're in the Grand Rapids area on Friday night, get yourself to Schuller's Books and Music on 28th Street for the great sounds of &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Ellery&lt;/span&gt;.  If you're not familiar w/this  young, husband/wife duo, you need to be!  Have a &lt;a href="http://www.ellerymusic.com/music.htm"&gt;listen&lt;/a&gt;.  See you there. 7:30.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1054707203818412735-2502838062214771519?l=holyskinandbone.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/feeds/2502838062214771519/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1054707203818412735&amp;postID=2502838062214771519' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/2502838062214771519'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/2502838062214771519'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/2008/02/speaking-of-music.html' title='Speaking of Music'/><author><name>Kevin Corcoran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17422789329481787215</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_UIcUp4yfmZw/SdzPy_tbHJI/AAAAAAAAAEY/uGtJ6uwPXhs/S220/dad+2+at+Birds+Nest_1.JPG'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1054707203818412735.post-8612652256125531192</id><published>2008-02-27T09:49:00.003-05:00</published><updated>2008-04-06T09:42:43.604-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='rock music'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='spiritual autobiography'/><title type='text'>I Love Rock-n-Roll....And Home</title><content type='html'>My spiritual life has always had the feel of journey about it.   The phenomenology of that journey is that of always traveling but never arriving.  And if it’s true that you can take a person’s spiritual temperature by the music they listen to, then mine would register a fever, a symptom of homelessness and the hunger for a home I often feel.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When I first began teaching philosophy at Calvin College I was given all 8:00 a.m. classes.  I grew to hate walking into the classroom at that godforsaken hour.  It was like walking into a morgue, as a veritable sea of pale, lifeless faces greeted me each morning.   So one day, when I could take it no more, I tried something different.  I arrived about 15 minutes before class began and played songs on a cd player so that what greeted students when they arrived was music. To this very day, before each introductory level class I teach, I now play music.  I play music that I enjoy listening to, like Bob Dylan, Bruce Springsteen, Counting Crows, Arcade Fire, Modest Mouse, Bright Eyes and others. This practice has revolutionized my classroom experience.  When I enter the classroom now, regardless of the hour, there is evidence of blood coursing through veins and signs of life among my students. Since I prefer the sights and sounds of life to the deafening and soul-sucking silence of death, I am much happier.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Not long ago the before-class set list consisted of these songs: When it Don’t Come Easy (Patty Griffin), Shipwrecked at the Stable Door (Bruce Cockburn), Love’s Gonna Carry Me Home (Pierce Pettis) and Where the Streets Have no Name (U2).  It occurred to me only afterward that every one of those songs gives voice to a profound sense of homelessness and a yearning for home.  And though not intentionally chosen for that common theme, there is no doubt that the music I played that day says a lot about where I was and am spiritually, what I’m thinking and what I’m feeling.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Patty Griffin, for example, wonders aloud if we’ll ever make it home:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Everywhere the water’s gettin’ rough/Your best intentions may not be enough/&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;I wonder if we're gonna ever get home tonight…/I don't know nothin’ except change will come/Year after year what we do is undone/Time keeps moving from a crawl to a run/&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;I wonder if we're gonna ever get home…./You're out there walking down a highway/&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;And all of the signs got blown away/Sometimes you wonder if you're walkin’ in the wrong direction…/So many things that I had before/It don't matter to me now/&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Tonight I cry for the love that I've lost/And the love I've never found.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Bruce Cockburn is not exactly sure where home is, but he knows it can’t be bought:  &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Big Circumstance has brought me here/Wish it would send me home/Never was clear where home is/But it's nothing you can own/It can't be bought with cigarettes/Or nylons or perfume/And all the highest bidder gets/Is a voucher for a tomb.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  While Cockburn may not know just where home is, Pierce Pettis seems to know what or Who will lead us there:  &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;These days I’m noticing things/Smell of the rain/Wind in the trees when it gets moving/Seems to say, I’m not alone/Some day Love’s gonna carry me home/These days I’m learning to smile/The hand of a child/Has led me into fields of laughter/They make sure that I know/Someday Love’s gonna carry me home.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  Finally, U2 has an unmistakable sense that when we do finally make it home differences will no longer divide, the streets will “have no name” and we will travel those streets together:  &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;I wanna run, I want to hide/I want to tear down the walls that hold me inside/I want to reach out and touch the flame/Where the streets have no name/I wanna feel sunlight on my face/I see that rain cloud disappearing without a trace/But I can dance, dance, dance in the dirty rain//Where the streets have no name/Where the streets have no name/Where the streets have no name/And when I go there/I’ll go there with you/It’s all I can do/Still building then burning down love/Burning down love//The city’s afloat/Our love turns to rust/We’re being blown by the wind and trampled by dust/I’ll show you a place with no sorrow no pain/Where the streets have no name/Love, Love, Love&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Each song, in its own way, expresses what is perhaps a universal longing for rest and refuge, especially for the world-weary wanderer.  Each expresses a yearning that resonates with those who never were clear where home is and who sometimes feel, in the words of Patty Griffin, like we’re walking down a highway void of signs, wondering if we’re walking in the wrong direction.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  I must confess that this is part of the fabric of my own experience—disorientation, dislocation, groaning, longing, and hoping, hoping that Love has the last word after all and that when I go “there” I go there “with/you” and not alone.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Reminds me of a children’s story, Runaway Bunny, which I used to read to my own children when they were younger.  It’s the story of a young bunny who schemes and shares with its mother all the ways it plans to runaway and leave home. And it is also the story of the lengths to which a loving mother will go to find her prodigal baby.  “If you runaway, I will run after you,” says the mother bunny to the runaway bunny, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;over and over and over again&lt;/span&gt;.  I think I was always reassured as much by the reading of that story to my children as my children may have been by my reading it.  It reminds me that runaway bunny that I am, I can never outrun the long arm of Love.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The story of journeying home is the story of us all; it’s the story of the prodigal children we all are and the love of a Father who will spare no expense in coming to our rescue. Patty Griffin puts it well in the chorus of When it Don’t Come Easy:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;But if you break down, I’ll drive out and find you/If you forget my love, I’ll try to remind you/Stay by you, when it don’t come easy/When it don’t come easy.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  It’s been my experience that life rarely comes easy. And I am more like the runaway bunny than the sheep who knows its Shepherd’s voice and follows.  In the hardest of times, when the water is “gettin’ rough,” I am easily temped to forget God’s love and to want to runaway. Even so I’m still on the highway, stumbling and blundering home. At times I may even be walking in the wrong direction, heading home but way off course.  The really good news is that even if I am sometimes heading in the wrong direction, then just like the mother bunny, God runs after me. He “drives out and finds me.”  And He carries me home, where I “dance, dance, dance.”&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1054707203818412735-8612652256125531192?l=holyskinandbone.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/feeds/8612652256125531192/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1054707203818412735&amp;postID=8612652256125531192' title='10 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/8612652256125531192'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/8612652256125531192'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/2008/02/i-love-rock-n-rolland-home.html' title='I Love Rock-n-Roll....And Home'/><author><name>Kevin Corcoran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17422789329481787215</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_UIcUp4yfmZw/SdzPy_tbHJI/AAAAAAAAAEY/uGtJ6uwPXhs/S220/dad+2+at+Birds+Nest_1.JPG'/></author><thr:total>10</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1054707203818412735.post-5380357397954743152</id><published>2008-02-25T05:52:00.006-05:00</published><updated>2008-04-06T09:43:14.823-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='universalism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='hell'/><title type='text'>One Hell Of A Week!</title><content type='html'>H-SAB is taking its dog and pony show over to the other side of the pond this week.  Today Jason Clark (leader of Emergent UK) is hosting a conversation b/w yours truly, one pseudonymously named &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Evangelical-Universalist-Gregory%20MacDonald/dp/1597523658"&gt;Gregory MacDonald&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://eauk.org/media/new-head-of-theology.cfm"&gt;Justin Thacker&lt;/a&gt;.  We’ll be discussing a topic that landed me in hot sulfur a couple of years ago—&lt;a href="http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dhn2mzpj_1fn2cnfcw"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;HELL&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;! GM and I will be defending the claim that universalism—the view that eventually all are reconciled to God—is compatible with orthodox Christian faith.  Justin will be taking exception to the way GM and I frame the issue on Jason’s site —i.e., in terms of whether or not the two are &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;compatible&lt;/span&gt;.  Justin will be urging us instead to try to make a case for, and thereby convince him that, universalism is true and taught in the bible.  (But, alas, Justin doesn’t think we’d be successful.) Should be one hell of a good time!!! So stop over at &lt;a href="http://jasonclark.ws/"&gt;Jason’s virtual digs&lt;/a&gt; and jump in!!!  Here’s the schedule:  GM today.  Me tomorrow.  Justin on Wednesday.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Peace, Love and Eternal Damnation.  --Kevin&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1054707203818412735-5380357397954743152?l=holyskinandbone.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/feeds/5380357397954743152/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1054707203818412735&amp;postID=5380357397954743152' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/5380357397954743152'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/5380357397954743152'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/2008/02/one-hell-of-week.html' title='One Hell Of A Week!'/><author><name>Kevin Corcoran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17422789329481787215</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_UIcUp4yfmZw/SdzPy_tbHJI/AAAAAAAAAEY/uGtJ6uwPXhs/S220/dad+2+at+Birds+Nest_1.JPG'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1054707203818412735.post-7010865794092246416</id><published>2008-02-23T08:39:00.005-05:00</published><updated>2008-04-06T09:43:53.766-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='kingdom of god'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Heaven'/><title type='text'>Heaven Is Not Up</title><content type='html'>I’ve been saying for some time that the traditional and vertical way of conceiving of heaven needs to be replaced with a more biblical and horizontal view of heaven, that heaven is a future toward which things are moving and our task is to actively anticipate that future. (I say so, for example, &lt;a href="http://www.ctlibrary.com/bc/2006/novdec/16.33.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.)  I’ve also been saying that that future is a fleshy, physical, embodied future.  (I say that &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Rethinking-Human-Nature-Materialist-Alternative/dp/0801027802"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, for example.)  I’ve been saying that this is what the bible says.  Well, apparently N.T. Wright has been clandestinely reading my work, has stolen my ideas and has now written his own &lt;a href="http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1710844,00.html"&gt;book&lt;/a&gt;.  JK. (-:  And I bet he never once acknowledges me!  JKA. (-;  Seriously, I’ve not yet read this new book of his, but I enthusiastically recommend it strictly on the basis of his previously published works.  In a future post, maybe I’ll take up some of these issues as they are, quite obviously, near and dear to &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;holy skin and bone!  &lt;/span&gt;(Thanks are due Keith DeRose for the link to the Wright interview.  Thanks, Keith.)&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1054707203818412735-7010865794092246416?l=holyskinandbone.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/feeds/7010865794092246416/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1054707203818412735&amp;postID=7010865794092246416' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/7010865794092246416'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/7010865794092246416'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/2008/02/heaven-is-not-up.html' title='Heaven Is Not Up'/><author><name>Kevin Corcoran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17422789329481787215</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_UIcUp4yfmZw/SdzPy_tbHJI/AAAAAAAAAEY/uGtJ6uwPXhs/S220/dad+2+at+Birds+Nest_1.JPG'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1054707203818412735.post-2615793384252075642</id><published>2008-02-22T10:08:00.003-05:00</published><updated>2008-04-06T09:45:57.023-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='postmodernism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='philosophy'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='story'/><title type='text'>Story And Argument: Jerusalem and Athens?</title><content type='html'>On Tuesday I floated the following quote from Robert Webber’s book Divine Embrace:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;But in the postmodern world, the way of knowing has changed. We now live in a world in which people have lost interest in argument and have taken to story, imagination, mystery, ambiguity, and vision....&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I wanted to know what you thought.  Four of you weighed in on this. I also mentioned the recent row in the UK over the Archbishop of Canterbury’s remarks concerning sharia law. Here too I wanted to know what you think.  One weighed in.  Let me share with you my thoughts on Webber’s quote and then tie those in with my assessment of what has transpired in the UK following Rowan Williams’ remarks.  If you want, you chime in.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To begin, let me say that I don't believe that very much has changed over time with respect to how we human beings &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;know&lt;/span&gt;. The world—pre-modern and modern—was never such that most people came to know very many things through argument.  Read Plato’s Republic (4th century before Christ), for example, or any of his dialogues.  They are not treasure troves of careful argumentation.  They are instead rife with stories.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That story—not argument—is what captures the human imagination, moves us and serves as a significant mode of knowledge is not unique to postmodernity.  And whereas mystery and ambiguity seem more like ways of &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;un&lt;/span&gt;knowing than ways of knowing, story surely seems to be one sort of invitation to knowledge. In fact, I would have to say that the most important thing I've ever come to know I came to know through story, not argument.  What is the most important thing I ever came to know?  The most important thing I ever came to know is this: "Jesus loves me &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;this I know&lt;/span&gt;, for the bible tells me so.  Yes, Jesus loves me.  Yes, Jesus loves me. Yes, Jesus loves me; the bible tells me so."  And it tells me not in syllogism and argument, but in story, complex stories involving all the ambiguity, pathos, mixed motives and twisted intentions that characterize human life in human skin.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now, I agree that mystery and ambiguity seem today to be valorized and readily embraced more so than in days gone by. But, again, they ought not, I think, to be thought of as &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;ways of knowing&lt;/span&gt;. Rather, they seem to me to function more at the level of a psychological milieu, a milieu that is more hospitable to story, liturgy and sacrament than to argument. Story, liturgy and sacrament engage us much more holistically than does argument.  They engage the affective, the passional and the sensual dimensions of human existence, whereas argument seems to engage us almost exclusively along the cognitive/cerebral dimension.  So those whose experience of life and God have the feel and flavor of mystery and ambiguity will resonate more readily with story, liturgy, sacrament and the imaginative.  No surprise, I think.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now, here’s what Webber goes on to say in the next sentence, following the ellipses:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;However, this does not mean or at least should not mean the complete loss of reason.  Reason has a place in story.  It is Christian rationalism that has failed, not intelligent discourse.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And this brings me to the sharia law kerfuffle involving the Archbishop.  Intelligent discourse has in fact failed, and is failing, in the sound-bite culture postmodernity has helped to create.  Mystery, ambiguity, story—all good and fine, but there are public spaces, occasions and contexts where argumentation is both necessary and helpful.  And one such space is the public square of debate concerning how to negotiate an increasingly pluralistic and global society/world. But to a culture with the attention span of a squirrel, a consumer culture characterized by fragmentation, montage and sound-bite, the features of nuance, care and settling in with a lengthy text—features characteristic of argumentation in the best sense of that term—are found to be difficult, annoying and...well... downright “modern”.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here’s how I see it.  To the extent that postmodernism involves deconstruction, and deconstruction involves memory and omission, the sharia law kerfuffle precipated by the Archbishop’s remarks presents a deconstructive moment, a moment both for liberal democracies and religious faiths.  Let me explain.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To my mind the most important point made by the Archbishop in his speech to the Royal Courts has gone systematically overlooked by the mass media and general public, both in the UK and the US.  This point has been omitted from the story the media tells partly because it threatens claims of loyalty near to the heart of secularism and secularized liberal democracy and is, therefore,  spectacularly unsettling to secularism.  One of the Archbishop's major points--&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;the  idea that one’s loyalties and allegiances should be and should be allowed to be split or shared&lt;/span&gt;--is unthinkable to the secularizers of liberal democracy.  Yet for a person of religious faith living in a pluralistic society governed by the rule of law, one’s loyalties &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;are&lt;/span&gt; split or shared.  “I am Christian.  And I am an American.”  “I am Muslim and I am a British citizen.”  “I am Jewish and I am American.”    The secularizers cannot tolerate the identity forming features of confessional religions like Christianity, Judaism and Islam because, they think, confessional religion threatens social cohesion.  Religion is fine, the secularizers would have us believe, so long as it is kept in its cage, domesticated at home, taken out for leisurely strolls within synagogue, mosque or church one day a week (or year); but, we mustn’t let it out of its cage to run amok in the public square.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Archbishop had the audacity to suggest in the face of the monopolizing claims of the state—and so to remind those of us with religious identities—that with respect to &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;who we are&lt;/span&gt; we are joint species, dual citizens.  And what he urged upon the state was to make fair accommodation, accommodation in law, accommodation that simultaneously recognizes one’s identity &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;as&lt;/span&gt; Christian, Jew or Muslim (say) without in effect introducing into society barbaric tribalisms of various sorts.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But.  But one must actually read his remarks—complex and nuanced as they in fact are—in order to see that he was &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;not&lt;/span&gt; advocating the adoption of sharia law or suggesting a parallel legal system.  So reading, dwelling with nuance and complexity, i.e., the stuff of argument, is absolutely essential to our well being and flourishing.  It has its place and must have its place, especially in a pluralistic and increasingly global market place of ideas and identities.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, while I am glad that the bible is not chock full of argument with propositions, premises and conclusions I am also enormously grateful for the clarity of argument.  And grateful too that when it came to public debate, the Archbishop employed reasons and argument--the economic currency of public discourse--not story, liturgy or mystery.  My disappointment and sadness is in the fact that we--the religious and the (ir)religious-- seem to have become impatient and deaf to careful argument.  To the extent that we have done so we have done so, I fear, to the very detriment of civil society.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The End.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1054707203818412735-2615793384252075642?l=holyskinandbone.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/feeds/2615793384252075642/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1054707203818412735&amp;postID=2615793384252075642' title='10 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/2615793384252075642'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/2615793384252075642'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/2008/02/story-and-argument-jerusalem-and-athens.html' title='Story And Argument: Jerusalem and Athens?'/><author><name>Kevin Corcoran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17422789329481787215</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_UIcUp4yfmZw/SdzPy_tbHJI/AAAAAAAAAEY/uGtJ6uwPXhs/S220/dad+2+at+Birds+Nest_1.JPG'/></author><thr:total>10</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1054707203818412735.post-2482921199393169186</id><published>2008-02-19T08:55:00.005-05:00</published><updated>2008-02-20T23:30:35.174-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Two for Tuesday @ Holy Skin and Bone</title><content type='html'>It’s Two for Tuesday at Holy Skin and Bone.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I want to float two items today, get your feedback on one or the other (or both) and then tomorrow (or maybe Thursday) I’ll share with you my thoughts.  First up is this quote sent to me from my good friend Susan Matheson.  She wanted to know what I made of it.  Here’s the quote (from the introduction of Robert Webber's &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Divine Embrace, &lt;/span&gt;p. 17):&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;But in the postmodern world, the way of knowing has changed. We now live&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;in a world in which people have lost interest in argument and have taken&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;to story, imagination, mystery, ambiguity, and vision....&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What are your thoughts?  Go on, wax eloquent(ly)!  I’ll share my thoughts soon enough.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Next up is this from the UK; Lambeth Palace, London to be exact.  Archbishop Rowan Williams, a former professor of mine and someone I had the good pleasure of &lt;a href="http://youtube.com/calvinaltworship"&gt;interviewing&lt;/a&gt; just last month during a &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nT0OvV9H99M"&gt;Calvin interim course&lt;/a&gt; I led with my good friends &lt;a href="http://www.compassoutreachmedia.com/"&gt;Kurt and Lori Wilson&lt;/a&gt;, continues to be raked over the coals for his comments concerning sharia law.  In a &lt;a href="http://www.archbishopofcanterbury.org/1575"&gt;speech&lt;/a&gt; to the Royal Courts of Justice a few weeks ago, the Archbishop explored ways in which reasonable accommodation might be made within existing political arrangements for the religious conscience of Muslims (and people of other faiths).   That speech, and his comments during a subsequent &lt;a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=B0f_vvPUXAU&amp;amp;feature=related"&gt;interview&lt;/a&gt;, set off a media feeding frenzy as well as mass public hysteria.  (Just go to youtube and search "Archbishop and sharia law" to view painful skewerings of the Archbishop by Catholics, Anglicans and assorted secularists.)  What did you make of the Archbishop’s remarks and suggestions?  What do you make of the strident reaction to his remarks from both the media and the British public?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Next time, I will attempt the herculean task of tying together these two seemingly unrelated issues.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1054707203818412735-2482921199393169186?l=holyskinandbone.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/feeds/2482921199393169186/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1054707203818412735&amp;postID=2482921199393169186' title='7 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/2482921199393169186'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/2482921199393169186'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/2008/02/two-for-tuesday-holy-skin-and-bone.html' title='Two for Tuesday @ Holy Skin and Bone'/><author><name>Kevin Corcoran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17422789329481787215</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_UIcUp4yfmZw/SdzPy_tbHJI/AAAAAAAAAEY/uGtJ6uwPXhs/S220/dad+2+at+Birds+Nest_1.JPG'/></author><thr:total>7</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1054707203818412735.post-7675167226750428588</id><published>2008-02-18T09:15:00.005-05:00</published><updated>2008-04-06T09:46:35.614-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='evolution'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='chrisitian materialism'/><title type='text'>Truth Fish Eats Darwin Fish.  Huh?</title><content type='html'>You’re familiar with the expression “You learn something new everyday.”  Well, I don’t know about that, but I suppose one &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;could&lt;/span&gt; learn something new everyday, or nearly everyday if one was sufficiently attentive.  Yesterday I learned something new.  It’s something everyone else apparently already knew.  Not me.  I am a ridiculously slow learner.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You know the Ichthus, the ancient symbol of the Christian faith that is a simple line drawing of a fish and that scores of very rude and bad drivers affix to their bumpers?  Well, I always thought the Ichthus with legs and the word “Darwin” emblazoned inside it was a statement by those Christians who accept both the Christian faith and evolutionary creation.  Since I have been such a person for quite a long time I just assumed that there were lots of us and some of us—those into bumper stickers—decided we’d announce it to the world just to let the world know that the two—Christian faith and evolutionary creation—are not at odds.  I was wrong, of course.  Apparently, as everyone but me knew, the Ichthus with legs and “Darwin” emblazoned inside it is supposed to signal the ridiculously false view that the Christian faith (a supposedly ridiculously silly and dangerously false view of the world) has been replaced by atheistic naturalism (a supremely enlightened and wonderfully liberating) view of the world.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That’s pathetic, really.  It is surpassed in its pathetic-ness only by the “Truth” fish (which I just became acquainted with yesterday) swallowing whole the “Darwin” fish (whose true meaning I just became acquainted with yesterday, too).  The messages of both of these pathetic bumper stickers  make the same mistake.  (I know, I know—they’re BUMPER STICKERS for cyrin’ out loud.  Don't take them so seriously.  Right.  But did you watch any of the coverage of the Republican Party National Convention during the last election?  There are lots of bumper sticker-loving, bumper sticker-believing, bumper sticker personality types making really important decisions about our future and the future of our planet.  It’s scary!)  Anyway, as I was saying, the messages of both these pathetic bumper stickers make the same mistake.  They falsely imply that Christian theism and &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;evolutionary creation&lt;/span&gt; are alternative and mutually exclusive explanations of the natural world.  They’re not.  And it doesn’t take a genius to see this.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In my kick off blog (when was that? Oh, yeah, just yesterday) I pointed out even if very briefly how we came to be. We develop from a small, hollow sphere through a natural process of cell-division and growth. Things begin with a single celled zygote and through a series of cleavages and divisions we get what biologists refer to as a morula, then a blastocyst, then there’s the development of body form, and eventually a fetus.  Then, after more development, we get you!  Now who made you?  Well, God, of course.  But my description of your biological origins didn’t mention God.  Yet I bet not a single one (of the two or three of you) who read that description said to yourself, "Oh, did he just say I wasn't made by God?" Of course not.  That's because the natural facts and biological processes causally responsible for your coming to be do not in any way exclude God from being the author of your being.  They're perfectly compatible.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Alright. ‘nuff said.  I had to get that off my chest.  My colleague Steve Matheson is a biologist.  He’s a much quicker learner than me, too.  And he’s got an amazing blog that deals with all these sort of issues.  Every Christian whose undies get in a bunch when they read or hear about the facts of common descent and evolutionary creation should read his blog.  Every dim-witted naturalistic atheist should read his blog, too. Both might then stop saying the same sorts of silly things.   You can visit Steve’s blog here: &lt;a href="http://www.sfmatheson.blogspot.com/"&gt;http://sfmatheson.blogspot.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Peace, Love and Good Sense to All,&lt;br /&gt;Kevin&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;NB:  The comment above about the Republican National Convention refers to the infamous slogan "Flip-Flop" raucously chanted by throngs of flip-flop carrying conventioneers  during one of the speeches I saw.  It is not meant as an indictment of Republicans as such.  No doubt bumper-sticker-deep thinking is an equal opportunity employer and scores of rabid Demoncrats are also in its employ.&lt;/span&gt;]&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1054707203818412735-7675167226750428588?l=holyskinandbone.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/feeds/7675167226750428588/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1054707203818412735&amp;postID=7675167226750428588' title='23 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/7675167226750428588'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/7675167226750428588'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/2008/02/truth-fish-eats-darwin-fish-huh.html' title='Truth Fish Eats Darwin Fish.  Huh?'/><author><name>Kevin Corcoran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17422789329481787215</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_UIcUp4yfmZw/SdzPy_tbHJI/AAAAAAAAAEY/uGtJ6uwPXhs/S220/dad+2+at+Birds+Nest_1.JPG'/></author><thr:total>23</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1054707203818412735.post-5167020720789776389</id><published>2008-02-17T00:01:00.002-05:00</published><updated>2008-04-06T09:47:01.873-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='emodiment'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='chrisitian materialism'/><title type='text'>Holy Skin and  Bone Kickoff</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;Dirt. The biblical story of our origins is one of dust and ashes—earth, mud and breath. We are made from the dust of the ground, says the writer of Genesis.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Then the Lord God formed Adam from the dust of the ground...&lt;/span&gt;  (Gen. 2.7)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Adam, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Adamah&lt;/span&gt;, the Hebrew word for &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;ground&lt;/span&gt;. We human beings are dirt-people, of a piece with shrub and shrew, mountain and mollusk, armadillo and ant. Earth-people is what we are; made of flesh and bone, sinew and socket. We develop from an astonishingly small, hollow sphere through an equally astonishing process of cell-division and growth. From zygote to morula, from blastocyst to the development of body form, all the way through to the appearance of a fetus—the miraculous process of our biological development takes place amid an earthy mix of urine and blood.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;While some may regard this carnal tale with horror and disgust, let me remind you that the urine and blood, this earth and dirt, is God-breathed, God-loved, God-blessed, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;holy&lt;/span&gt; stuff. Indeed the biologically incarnated life of Jesus unfolded just like ours. His geneology is equally soiled, including as it does adulterers (King David) prostitutes (Rahab) and other assorted outcasts and sinners. Like all collisions, the beautiful collision of heaven and earth is messy business. It's holy business. Holy and messy. Wholly messy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is a blog whose author is made of mud, whose author lives in the mud and whose author hopes and dreams in the mud and who expects those hopes and dreams ultimately to be realized on the surface of a little round planet made of mud. This is a blog, therefore, that is ultimately about the kingdom of God. Don't be surprised. The kingdom of God is ultimately all about the dirt and mud, once beautiful, now twisted, but on its way to glory. That kingdom is a future that has collided and intersected with this little round planet, a future that has come and is coming still. It's a future some of us long for, work for and eagerly and actively anticipate. Since this blog is about that kingdom, this blog will be about politics, sex, music, literature, science, community and all those earthly realities that delight us, frustrate us, confuse us, fascinate us and ultimately make us hunger and thirst for the consummation of all things.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'll plan just to say what's on my mind when the mood strikes. And maybe, if you're interested, you will respond and there will be born a conversation that will make us all better human beings or more informed human beings or more enriched human beings than we would otherwise have been.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So here's to skin and bone set apart for the most exciting task on earth--heralding a kingdom that is at once "not of this world" but every bit "of the earth."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1054707203818412735-5167020720789776389?l=holyskinandbone.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/feeds/5167020720789776389/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1054707203818412735&amp;postID=5167020720789776389' title='10 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/5167020720789776389'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1054707203818412735/posts/default/5167020720789776389'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://holyskinandbone.blogspot.com/2008/02/holy-skin-and-bone-kickoff.html' title='Holy Skin and  Bone Kickoff'/><author><name>Kevin Corcoran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17422789329481787215</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_UIcUp4yfmZw/SdzPy_tbHJI/AAAAAAAAAEY/uGtJ6uwPXhs/S220/dad+2+at+Birds+Nest_1.JPG'/></author><thr:total>10</thr:total></entry></feed>
